NOTE: the late “Lemmy” is a beloved Brit* musician from an enjoyable rock band, perhaps with some Led Zep-type analogues? (sorry, I just didn’t know him very well; kinda before my time)
Okay, what I’m trying to explain here is how we search for things and how we find them, particularly when we include the magical word: “Lemmy” in our searches.
For example-- I can just half-awake, lazily type something like “reddit” + search term, and BOOM! Robert’s your avuncular figure.**
Now, by comparison, hopping on an instance, so far I’ve found that searches within the Lemmysphere are remarkably strong. (well, at least for lemm.ee; I love my instance)
Unfortunately, that’s not how most people search and find us, which more typically involves Google, etc.
Hence my question, laddies & lassies-- i.e. is there anything we can do to influence how this search-stuff works…?
* see, I always find a way to relate things back to Europe, haha
** like “there you go,” ie. “Bob’s your uncle,” a classic Brit pub-phrase
You can use kagi with the fediverse search function
Motörhead ≠ Led Zeppelin
Yeah… I love both but Led Zep is way more of a hippie rock vibe and motorhead is like biker rock
You mean that zeppelin was high in the clouds and motorhead are oil heads?
Yeah I’ll smoke a joint to Zep but I’ll chug a Guinness to Motörhead
I know I know, but I was half-toasted and body shutting down due to the usual CFS/ME at the time. I had to take a stab in some direction, haha.
Give me a better analogy…?
Yikes! What happens if you chug coffee? Do you feel anything? Maybe tired and wired? What about amphetamines?
They’re probably more similar to early Ozzy musically, but Lemmy is a sound of his own.
Okkkkkaaaaaaaayyy?
Just curious about the condition.
Reddit is all on one domain, so a search on that is a fairly simple thing to do. Lemmy is a lot of different inter-connected sites, most of which don’t even contain “Lemmy” in their name, making it a much more difficult ask.
And to make matters worse, because all of those domains have a good chunk of nearly identical content, they end up appearing like SEO content farm spam to the algorithm. It’s like all those sites that used to clone Stack Overflow back in the day.
Lemmy is a lot of different inter-connected sites, most of which don’t even contain “Lemmy” in their name, making it a much more difficult ask.
A search engine could easily enough set up their own Lemmy server to search from. Same with Mastodon.
Shouldn’t it be more or less the same with lemmy? We have a few major instances that are in sync with other instances, so indexing either of them should cover different sites.
And that’s why it’s so cool that Kagi has an option to limit your search to the fediverse.
Precisely.
“-music” should mostly do the trick… unless you’re looking for music.
Kagi (a paid search engine) has a “fediverse forums” filter option.
And the search actually returns relevant results, not a bunch of ads. If you have used free search your whole life, it kind of sucks to pay for it, but I would rather pay for searching than be a product people pay for every time I search. It doesn’t take much thought to see why being the product will always lead to a worse search platform.
For anyone who doesnt know Lemmy, just want to say hes easy to get a bad first impression of.
He was really well respected by people in music and was a good soul.
Theres an good documentary on him i think was on netflix.
Also fun fact, he was a roadie for Jimmy Hendrix
“Screw 'em, do what you want” shall be the whole of the law.
He was really well respected by people in music and was a good soul.
Yeah, I got that sense, and that there was a collective sadness when he passed.
There is a video game called brutal legend he does character for if interested.
Yes I’m a bit of a fan.
Inferno is probably my favourite Motorhead album, if you wanted to check em out
Who would win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or god?
Ha! Trick question.
Yeah. Lemmy would say “fuck that, you want rum and coke instead, mate?”
Ecosia is better for this than google
Right, I’m no google search-engine fan, but I’m thinking of the mass of people…
I just did some experimenting, and in duckduckgo.com at least, searches like this work quite well:
“Best CPU (site:lemm.ee OR site:lemmy.world OR site:lemmy.ca)”
Not exactly user friendly, but it’s a starting point. At least two ways forward:
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A browser plugin with a config page allowing you to select/deselect your favourite instances, and make a bang operator to suit: e.g. “!lemmy”
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Petition search engines to do this themselves.
Really appreciate that.
From tiny acorns could mighty acorns be borne! :D
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This would be a great Kagi lens (https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html ), perhaps for the Fediverse generally, rather than just for Lemmy. They already have one for Reddit, as well as a ‘small web’ one focused on small sites and non-commercial material.
Double check me on this, but I think they have a “-site:” parameter that you can use in your searches.
I think they have a “-site:” parameter
Yup, that’s a boolean exclusion term. Thing is, I’m looking for more of the opposite, i.e. a way to lasso as many Lemmy instances as possible in to showing their relevant results to the search.
I just watched Last of Us (inspired by the game) featuring Pedro Pascal. Looks very similar to Lemmy.
perhaps with some Led Zep-type analogues
I’m not generally a huge fan of HM, but I can feel the energy! Thanks for the share.
Every aspect of this picture is cool
