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    During the investigation, Europol’s analysts from the European Cybercrime Centre (EC3) provided intensive operational support to national authorities by analysing thousands of videos.

    I don’t know how you can do this job and not get sick because looking away is not an option

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      You do get sick, and I would be most surprised if they didnt allow people to look away and take breaks/get support as needed.

      Most emergency line operators and similar kinds of inspectors get them, so it would be odd if they did not.

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        Yes, my wife used to work in the ER, she still tells the same stories over and over again 15 years later, because the memories of the horrible shit she saw doesn’t go away

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        Indeed, but in my country the psychological support is even mandatory. Furthermore, I know there have been pilots with using ML to go through the videos. When the system detects explicit material, an officer has to confirm it. But it prevents them going through it all day every day for each video. I think Microsoft has also been working on a database with hashes that LEO provides to automatically detect materials that have already been identified. All in all, a gruesome job, but fortunately technique is alleviating the harshest activities bit by bit.

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      Or a Netflix for children/video editing app for primary schoolers in the early 2000s/late 1900s.

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    They also seized 72,000 illegal videos from the site and personal information of its users, resulting in arrests of 1,400 suspects around the world.

    Wow

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    If that’s the actual splash screen that pops up when you try to access it (no, I’m not going to go to it and check, I don’t want to be on a new and exciting list) then kudos to the person who put that together. Shit goes hard. So do all the agency logos.

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      I imagine it’s easier to catch uploaders than viewers.

      It’s also probably more impactful to go for the big “power producers” simultaneously and quickly before word gets out and people start locking things down.

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      I once saw a list of defederated lemmy instances. In most cases, and I mean like 95% of them, the reason of thedefederation was pretty much in the instance name. CP everywhere. Humanity is a freaking mistake.

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        I regularly see people on Lemmy advocating for pedophilia, at LEAST every 3 months as a popular, upvoted stance. I argue with them in my history

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          what he fuck I’ve never ran into anyone like that.don’t even wanna know where you do this regularly

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              qualifying that as advocating for pedophilia is crazy. all that said is they don’t know about studies regarding it so they said probably instead of making a definitive statement. your response is extremely over the top and hostile to someone who didn’t advocate for what you’re saying they advocate for.

              It’s none of my business what you do with your time here but if I were you I’d be more cool headed about this because this is giving qanon.

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              I feel like what he’s trying to say it shouldn’t be the end of the world if a kid sees a sex scene in a movie, like it should be ok for them to know it exists. But the way he phrases it is questionable at best.

              When I was a kid I was forced to leave the room when any intimate scenes were in a movie and I honestly do feel like it fucked with my perception of sex a bit. Like it’s this taboo thing that should be hidden away and never discussed.

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          gross, probably the reason they got banned from reddit for the same thing, promoting or soliciting csam material.

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            I don’t really think Reddit minds that, actually, given that u/spez was the lead mod of r/jailbait until.he got caught and hid who the mods were

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        Isnit not encouraging that it is ostracised and removed from normal people. There are horrible parts of everything in nature, life is good despite those people and because of the rest combatting their shittiness

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        You’re just seeing “survivor’s bias” (as nasty as that sounds in this case) not a general representation.

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            There are a lot of pedophiles everywhere.

            Unfortunately, the really rich ones get away with it for a long time, and few get away with it forever.

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              epstein files is never going to be fully released, too many rich and powerful people

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    On average, around 3.5 new videos were uploaded to the platform every hour, many of which were previously unknown to law enforcement.

    Absolutely sick and vile. I hope they honey potted the site and that the arrests keep coming.

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    Does it feel odd to anyone else that a platform for something this universally condemned in any jurisdiction can operate for 4 years, with a catchy name clearly thought up by a marketing person, its own payment system and nearly six figure number of videos? I mean even if we assume that some of those 4 years were intentional to allow law enforcement to catch as many perpetrators as possible this feels too similar to fully legal operations in scope.

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      It would feel odd, but you have to remember we live in a world where Epstein was allowed to get away with what he did until the little people found out.

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        Epstein was very smart, and figured out early on there were many, many rich pedophiles.

        So, he got buddy buddy with them, supplied young girls to them.

        BUT, he filmed the encounters in secret, and blackmailed the shit out of these people.

        He was smart enough to become obscenely rich on Wall Street legitimately, but he liked to bang little girls, found others who did too, and then extorted them.

        There’s an anecdote about how when Epstein was holding court with other Aristos, they would bring up any random subject, to get his opinion.

        What would he say? “What does that have to do with pussy?”

        Many, many people have verified that. But because we was filthy rich, everyone just laughed, and blew it off.

        Epstein was murdered. I’m not a conspiracy nut. It’s just blatantly obvious. The 2 guards on duty admitted to fucking off (bribed,) and were aquitted.

        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/case-dropped-jail-guards-duty-night-epstein-died-rcna10557

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          trump was his most frequent guest, and he trump had his goon do everything in his power to get rid of the evidence when he was still alive. alot of politicians of different countries are part of it, as are hollywood execs, weinstein was probably the most infamous one.

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            This kind of thing is rampant. And it’s not just little girls.

            Heard from Bryan Singer, lately? Corey Feldman’s story about he, and Corey Haim confirm it.

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      with a catchy name clearly thought up by a marketing person

      A marketing person? They took “Netflix” and changed the first three letters lol

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        Exactly! There are plethora of *flix sites out there including adult ones. It does not take much of marketing skill to name site like this.

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      With the amount of sites that are easily accessed on the dark net though the hidden wiki and other sites. This might of been a honeypot from the start.

      On the contrary, why would they announce that they seized the site? To cause more panic, and to exaggerate the actual situation?

      In addition, that last point should be considered because even if they used these type of operations, honeypotting would still be considered illegal. So Ultimately what is stopping the supreme power to abuse that power on other people?

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      It’s a side effect of privacy and security. The one side effect they’re trying to use to undermine all of the privacy and security.

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        This has nothing to do with privacy! Criminals have their techniques and methods to protect themselves and their “businesses” from discovery, both in the real world and in the online world. Even in a complete absence of privacy they would find a way to hide their stuff from the police - at least for a while.

        In the real world, criminals (e.g. drug dealers) also use cars, so you could argue, that druck trafficking is a side effect of people having cars…

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          Well, it does have to do with privacy and security, it just doesn’t matter if it’s legal or not for them. These people (in the US) always make a point that criminals will buy guns whether it’s legal or not, but then they’ll argue they need to destroy privacy because criminals are using it. It doesn’t make sense, but it doesn’t need to because honesty or consistency aren’t important.

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          This platform used Tor. And because we want to protect privacy, they can make use of it.

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            This particular platform used tor. It doesn’t mean all platforms are using privacy centric anonymous networks. There are incidents with people using kik, Snapchat, Facebook and other clear net services to perform criminal actions such as drugs or cp.

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          Pick any country where child marriage is legal and where women are a object the man owns

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          Context is important I guess. So two things.

          Is something illegal if it’s not prosecuted?

          Is it CSA if the kid is 9 but that’s marrying age in that country?

          If you answer yes, then no, then we’ll not agree on this topic.

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            I am not talking about CSA, I am talking about video material of CSA. Most countries with marriage ages that low have much more wide-spread bans on videos including sex of any kind.

            As for prosecution, yes, it is still illegal if it is not prosecuted. There are many reasons not to prosecute something ranging all the way from resource and other means related concerns to intentionally turning a blind eye and only a small minority of them would lead that country to actively sabotage a major international investigation, especially after the trade-offs are considered (such as loss of international reputation by refusing to cooperate).

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    Fuck man. I used to use a program called “Kidpix” when I was a kid. It was like ms paint but with fun effects and sounds.

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    With everything going on right now, the fact that I still feel physically sick reading things like this tells me I haven’t gone completely numb yet. Just absolutely repulsive.

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      I know I’m not heartless yet because I am still traumatized by the brick in the window video…

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        I’ll probably regret asking, but I’m out of the loop and insatiably curious.

        Brick in the window video?

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          If it’s what I’m thinking of, camera footage of a vehicle interior.

          Driving down the highway, going under an overpass when a brick gets tossed by some kids and goes through the window.

          Passenger hit, husband is driving and screams.

          You know that scream they mention in The Princess Bride? That “only someone experiencing ultimate suffering” can make?

          If you know, you know.

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            I’ve never seen that video but I can hear that scream from the husband. That’s some fucked up shit.

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            Oh no. I remember that video now. I didn’t need to remember that video. Why did I have to ask?!

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    Every now and again I am reminded of my sentiment that the introduction of “media” onto the Internet is a net harm. Maybe 256 dithered color photos like you’d see in Encarta 95 and that’s the maximum extent of what should be allowed. There’s just so much abuse from this kind of shit… despicable.

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      Raping kids has unfortunately been a thing since long before the internet. You could legally bang a 13 year old right up to the 1800s and in some places you still can.

      As recently as the 1980s people would openly advocate for it to be legal, and remove the age of consent altogether. They’d get it in magazines from countries where it was still legal.

      I suspect it’s far less prevalent now than it’s ever been. It’s now pretty much universally seen as unacceptable, which is a good start.

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      It is easy to very feel disillusioned with the world, but it is important to remember that there are still good people all around willing to fight the good fight. And it is also important to remember that technology is not inherently bad, it is a neutral object, but people could use it for either good or bad purposes.

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      I think it just shows all the hideousness of humanity and all it’s glory in a way that we have never confronted before. It’s shatters the illusion the humanity has grown from its barbaric ways.