In light of Mozilla’s recent policy changes, we no longer feel assured that Firefox aligns with our commitment to protect your privacy. This prompted us to revisit the choice of default web browser in Zorin OS 17.3.
A bad move. But again i hate that many distros have a default browser and they don’t let you choose.
one of the worst distros ever so I guess this is pretty obvious choice and telling to some.
Define worst? It does what it says, it’s an easy stable distro for windows refugees. Slow updates doesn’t make something bad
the everyday linux distro that is famous for asking people for money for their pro version, cause they know most of the userbase is coming from windows and doesnt know that everything is free?
They don’t force you to buy anything. Almost all distros have a donation button on their site/git.
Nothing wrong with supporting projects you adore.
Ubuntu asks for money for their “pro” version.
It’s a big reason why I switched to Debian.
Once again like Zorin, it isn’t required to use the base version. Projects take time and effort, support is optional. Debian also has a donation page gonna distrohop now too?
You keep ignoring the “pro” version aspect of this.
Debian doesn’t lock features or updates behind paywalls. It’s not just about asking for donations.
What does zorin lock behind the pro version? Some themes that you could make yourself if you wanted. And they package some apps that you could manualy download. What updates are you refering to?
Why lock anything behind a paywall? They do it to take advantage of users who don’t know any better. Otherwise, they would just ask for donations.
Why are you defending scummy practices? Are you a shill, fanboy, or useful idiot?
Nah people just frame it as if you need to buy it, while that’s not true. No I’m not defending scummy practices, I’m just pro supporting software that you enjoy. That people like you can’t handle others opinions and immediately resort to calling it “fanboy or useful idiot.” The world doesn’t need to be a copy pasta of opinions
There is a difference between a donation and a purchase. You can buy Ubuntu Pro like Zorin Pro. Its not free
Brave marketing has gone crazy to convince people it’s less dodgy than Firefox. Come on!
Yeah. Viral marketing is real but people never seem to be able to identify it.
“Mozilla has a bit been shady lately, so we are making the difficult decision to change our default browser to something significantly more shady. We are confident our users will feel safer knowing their data is in even worse hands than before"
Seems like a strange choice. If anything i would’ve expected them to just use a firefox fork or something.
Zen is literally the best browser around right now, I do understand the UI isn’t for everybody but if you vibe with it, it rocks
talk about bad taste
I’m actually not familiar with this distro. But if I installed a Linux distro, and it had brave installed. I would immediately switch.
While FF’s evil quotient has been on the rise, Brave definitely isn’t a better option. If anything, librewolf is the way to go.
As a Librewolf user I wouldn’t make it default for casual users this kind of distro is aiming for. Sure enabling logins to use it as a main browser is piss easy, but that’s still more work than the average person wants to put into setting up their system.
Waterfox would be the better choice since it’s just default Firefox in every way besides Mozilla’s spyware.
Ugh. Why can’t designers recognize they don’t need to do things different just for the sake of being different?
I guess it’s what makes them bad designers.
Doesn’t Librewolf log you out of every site when you close it, by default? I don’t think that’s a good default
That is the default behaviour, but it’s pretty trivial to change. Also, I’d imagine the distro maintainer could choose to change the default settings as part of a post-install script, if they wanted to.
Edit: Not sure why you’re being downvoted, as I do think it’s a valid concern.
Probably getting downvoted by fanboys.
It has to be the default tho, bc the whole point of Librewolf is that it’s trying to by default be untraceable and private.
It’s very easy to disable that and re-enable cookies and the like, but your default experience will fundamentally be private, which is its goal
It’s very easy to
Sigh. This is what makes you people bad designers.
That’s not the only point though. IIRC, they also remove telemetry, and pocket as well as some other things. I personally turn back on persistent sessions and history, but leave all the other privacy features there.
I personally turn back on persistent sessions and history
I did as well.
My point is just that it makes sense to be the default in that browser given its inclination towards privacy.
Ok but like, that makes a terrible default for Zorin OS users. They’re gonna be confused and think it’s some hot garbage
Right. So perhaps Librewolf isn’t a good choice for Zorin OS
What’s wrong with Brave?
- Based on Chromium so good web support
- Decent privacy
- Built-in adblock
- Easy to customize
- Open Source
It’s the browser I’ve chosen to use after getting fed up w/ Gecko’s terrible web compatibility these days (coming from Librewolf).
What’s wrong with it? How is it evil?
Asides from the kinda-shady crypto stuff and the other things that’ve already been mentioned, just philosophically it should be kinda evident that over-concentration on one corporate controlled rendering engine isn’t a good thing. Google wants the internet to be a walled garden with themselves as the sole decision makers so they can stuff ads down your throat.
Gecko’s web compat is bad largely because of this over-concentration.
just philosophically it should be kinda evident that over-concentration on one corporate controlled rendering engine isn’t a good thing
Totally with you on that point.
However, I feel now that Gecko has already lost. I was a long-time FF and later Librewolf user, but Websites don’t care to support FF as much, so I’d have important sites break. I’d have to have a Chromium-based backup anyway.
So I’ve now given up on that from. I have no real choice but to use Blink in some capacity.
That’s gonna be a no from me, dawg
How is brave the lesser of those two evils?
It isn’t.
Brave sucks Google balls.
Based on absolutely nothing, I feel like it isn’t…
Chromium is more secure, so if you add privacy tweaks, it is arguably better: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html#jit-hardening
(Btw I use Firefox)
Blech. I’d downvote this because I disagree with their decision, but I’m glad you brought this to our attention.
Boo
That’s a clown makeup moment for Zorin OS
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