In light of Mozilla’s recent policy changes, we no longer feel assured that Firefox aligns with our commitment to protect your privacy. This prompted us to revisit the choice of default web browser in Zorin OS 17.3.

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    4 days ago

    While FF’s evil quotient has been on the rise, Brave definitely isn’t a better option. If anything, librewolf is the way to go.

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      3 days ago

      As a Librewolf user I wouldn’t make it default for casual users this kind of distro is aiming for. Sure enabling logins to use it as a main browser is piss easy, but that’s still more work than the average person wants to put into setting up their system.

      Waterfox would be the better choice since it’s just default Firefox in every way besides Mozilla’s spyware.

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        Ugh. Why can’t designers recognize they don’t need to do things different just for the sake of being different?

        I guess it’s what makes them bad designers.

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      4 days ago

      Doesn’t Librewolf log you out of every site when you close it, by default? I don’t think that’s a good default

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        3 days ago

        That is the default behaviour, but it’s pretty trivial to change. Also, I’d imagine the distro maintainer could choose to change the default settings as part of a post-install script, if they wanted to.

        Edit: Not sure why you’re being downvoted, as I do think it’s a valid concern.

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        It has to be the default tho, bc the whole point of Librewolf is that it’s trying to by default be untraceable and private.

        It’s very easy to disable that and re-enable cookies and the like, but your default experience will fundamentally be private, which is its goal

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          That’s not the only point though. IIRC, they also remove telemetry, and pocket as well as some other things. I personally turn back on persistent sessions and history, but leave all the other privacy features there.

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            I personally turn back on persistent sessions and history

            I did as well.

            My point is just that it makes sense to be the default in that browser given its inclination towards privacy.

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          4 days ago

          Ok but like, that makes a terrible default for Zorin OS users. They’re gonna be confused and think it’s some hot garbage

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      What’s wrong with Brave?

      • Based on Chromium so good web support
      • Decent privacy
      • Built-in adblock
      • Easy to customize
      • Open Source

      It’s the browser I’ve chosen to use after getting fed up w/ Gecko’s terrible web compatibility these days (coming from Librewolf).

      What’s wrong with it? How is it evil?

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        Asides from the kinda-shady crypto stuff and the other things that’ve already been mentioned, just philosophically it should be kinda evident that over-concentration on one corporate controlled rendering engine isn’t a good thing. Google wants the internet to be a walled garden with themselves as the sole decision makers so they can stuff ads down your throat.

        Gecko’s web compat is bad largely because of this over-concentration.

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          just philosophically it should be kinda evident that over-concentration on one corporate controlled rendering engine isn’t a good thing

          Totally with you on that point.

          However, I feel now that Gecko has already lost. I was a long-time FF and later Librewolf user, but Websites don’t care to support FF as much, so I’d have important sites break. I’d have to have a Chromium-based backup anyway.

          So I’ve now given up on that from. I have no real choice but to use Blink in some capacity.