MAGA fans are rejoicing on social media in favor of President Donald Trump’s plan to sign an executive order requiring commercial truck drivers to speak English.

Breitbart News reported that Trump would sign the order Monday evening because “President Trump believes that English is a non-negotiable safety requirement for professional drivers.” Last month, Trump designated English as “the official language of the United States.”

“This is such a big deal! So grateful for this, the roads will be much safer. Like many, I have seen many accidents or near accidents from unqualified drivers,” posted @coffeegirlvegas.

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    “This is such a big deal! So grateful for this, the roads will be much safer. Like many, I have seen many accidents or near accidents from unqualified drivers,” posted @coffeegirlvegas.

    Oh yea? You and many others have witnessed many accidents that were due to a truck driver’s inability to speak English?

    You dumb bitch.

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      That’s one of the infuriating things about these people. They’ll just make up BS that makes Trump seem reasonable. Trump does this English only thing, and now suddenly non-english truck drivers causing accidents is a thing, something that’s been a problem all along and thank Jesus he’s finally fixing it. Even though this was never actually a real issue that anyone even imagined before today.

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            Word history!

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              Neat … never did think about where the word ‘tarnation’ came from … heard it many times and just thought it was a made up nonsense word … never thought it had an actual history like that. Thanks!

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                okay, you’ve got to check out RobWords and Words Unraveled. i’m not usually one to plug youtube channels, but i think you’d really like them. i suggest you check out words unraveled first - just because it’s a lot of fun and jess (his co-host) adds a lot and makes him blush.

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                  You are a monster … I spend hours watching furniture and small engine restoration videos … documentaries and history … now you’ve given me a new branch of content to watch.

                  I can both simultaneously thank you and curse for this information. Regardless, I’m happy to have met you.

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    This is just an excuse for ICE to pull people over. And since they’re a part of the executive branch, they care less about due process and laws.

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    This is already a Commercial Driver’s License requirement. What is the specific issue here?

    “Interpreters are prohibited during the administration of skills tests. Applicants must be able to understand and respond to verbal commands and instructions in English by a skills test examiner.” CDL Standards

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      Can’t pull someone for “driving while brown”, but you can pull someone over for “driving while not speaking English, which I just concluded from you being brown”

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      You don’t need to speak English to know turn left and stop.

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        You’re right. You just need to be able to read, write, and understand instructions. Wait that sounds like knowing the language

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          Just like reddit to downvote someone who actually knows what the fuck they’re talking about because it doesn’t sound right to you.

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              And yet I know more than you and am correct. Maybe because you are just guessing and don’t have actual first hand knowledge.

              It is quite common to have CDL drivers that only speak Spanish whether or not they’re supposed to be able to speak English.

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                They still understood enough English to pass the test in the first place. I’m assuming with your first hand knowledge you knew that. Or are you just guessing there’s a lot of Spanish speaking people that got interpreters? This is about there already being a rule to speak English to get your license. It’s not about what language they primarily speak. This is just political theater to make magats happy. You’re just stuck on this “I have to be right or my online persona will be ruined”. Chill man. You don’t even sound smart online

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    Not sure about other states, but in mine, the ability to read and understand English is a requirement for getting a license…

    Now you could make an argument that’s not the same as speaking English, and my rebuttal is “should we ban mute, or speech-impared people from getting a CDL”?

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      I’m not really clear how they would even enforce this. They don’t have a database or standard test for speaking english.

      FBI: “Do you speak english?”

      Driver: “Sí señor. Aber ich lerne auch Deutsch.”

      FBI: “Fatastich. Guten Abend.”

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        I read comments like this and all I can feel is astonishment that anyone’s life is so empty that they can dedicate time to caring about this.

        Like, it sounds made up, but honestly whether true or not… like, who cares? It’s so trivial and life has so much to offer. This comment is the first and last time I’ll ever think about this.

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          Well, it’s fact. Some truckers and trucker’s groups have theorized that the increase in CDL involved accidents since the relaxing of this rule are caused instead of simply correlated.

          I actually agree with enforcing rules like this so even though trump’s an asshole, this one might improve safety.

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            I think it would be great if you can list some credible source before asserting a fact.

            Also I have a question, why do truck drivers speaking English makes the road more safe? As long as they understand the required knowledge, I don’t see the language they speak matters in terms of safety, but that could just be my lack of understanding in this area.

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                You know what also happened in 2016? They revised the definition of “large truck” to include 329 more vehicles. By increasing the sample size you’re going to see more accidents. Common cause of accidents is fatigue from drivers working too many hours. That gets better if there’s less drivers and they have to know English though right?

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                The article states: “Republican Representative Harriet Hageman of Wyoming … [states] a consistent rise in fatal truck crashes since its implementation.”

                Whereas your statement is “[Requiring truck driver to speak English improves safety] is a fact”.

                I am not saying what you said is necessarily wrong or the policy is necessarily harmful; but I feel we probably need more proof than “a republican representative said so”, to assert a certain statement as “a fact”.

                BTW, neither you nor the news article provided the relevant data, which IMHO doesn’t really inspire confidence in your argument. Let alone all the potiential confounding variable others have mentioned.

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            “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

            • Benjamin Franklin
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    yet another thing that has no legal standing and only exists to make the idiots think trump is accomplishing something

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    So the party of small government is going to administer english tests to truck drivers? maybe create some kind of language registry with proficiency levels? sounds kinda woke

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      Running the entire economy via a central planning committee is exactly the sort of right-wing free market the GOP voters wanted. I guess? Up is down. The past is alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

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        There’s the double-think we’ve all come to know and love. Double plus good, party member

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      The party of states rights (in areas they’re losing federally) makes yet another federal commandment in areas they want to gain ground on

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      There is already a federal clearing house for DoT drivers, this is for criminal checks and drug tests. They would just put it there.

      I hate to be “that guy” … but non English speakers on the road is kind of an issue.

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        I’m sorry, but the whole thing is ridiculous. Surely you are aware that there are countries (eg your neighbour to the north) that have more than one official language. As far as i know, only one city in Canada has bilingual signage, yet Canadians manage to drive safely all over the country without necessarily having proficiency in both languages. The european union has ??? languages and yet somehow manages to have safe roads. this is all part of trump’s pandering to the racist and xenophobic idiots who comprise his base.

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      I keep seeing comments from people pretending that the way it is meant to be is the way it is. Trump has said the law is what he says. There is no effective defense against him declaring laws if there is no enforcement. He has defied judges orders and will continue to do so. The EOs are laws because they are being followed and nobody is stopping them.

      Saying he can’t do that comes across like a right wing talking point. Trying to convince people that he can’t do what he is clearly doing, so those who are opposed will just sit around thinking the natural order will take care of it.

      And it’s working. Sure there have been some protests. But no where the amount needed to make a change. Trump is now a dictator, and far too many Americans are ok with it, directly and passively.

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        Actually there have been some massive protests against all this BS Trump has done. The media is just complicit and basically none of these protests have been covered in any mainstream outlets. The protests ARE there but if you are not driving by them on the way to work you probably do not even know about them. Thanks MSM~!@

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      Many laws are written to give the executive branch leeway in defining the details of how a law is to be implemented. This makes sense, assuming everyone is acting in good faith; technologies, science, standards, and best practices all evolve over time.

      Laws are usually written in a way to ensure Congressional oversight, to prevent the executive either intentionally or accidentally from subverting their will. But with a treasonous President and a complicit Congress, here we are… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Like many, I have seen many accidents or near accidents from unqualified drivers

    Can anyone explain how knowing English would reduce traffic accidents? Is it because of detour signs?