I thought it’d be a pain but installing programs through the terminal is actually so nice, I never would have expected it
Wait till you try fish or zsh loaded with all the fancy plugins lol
Oh-My-Zsh (https://ohmyz.sh/) is good if you want to try a nice suite of plugins and dotfiles.
or zoxide and yazi
Also, updates.
“hey computer! Update!”
“Sure thing, here is a list of 57 packages I will update, y/n?”
“y”
“ok… done!”
👌
But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?
They discontinued that native app and have a kinda broken pwa. But open-source community delivers.
I couldn’t imagine taking on the task of repackaging the Teams web client and signing up to fight Microsoft’s continual futzing around with things…
I have been harmed by this web page in a way that is too sacred to recover from. Dying now.
We shitpost on Lemmy and start flame wars about vi vs. emacs, X11 vs Wayland, sysvinit vs systemd, snaps vs flatpak, etc.
“Welcome to Costco. I love you.”
Sometimes I run the update command and there hasn’t been an update since yesterday. I think that’s pretty close.
plus it makes you feel like a hacker for a few seconds
“Hey computer, I don’t like when you ask for that confirmation, just do it”
“Oh,
-y, I got you”Two clicks with the update thingy on Mint, if I could never have to use the terminal I might be tempted to uninstall Windows completely.
Guess what I did last night? I spent 4 hours working on getting PSD, XCF and KRA thumbnailers working in Mint. It took custom scripts to be written and each one required different commands because KRA files are just a zip file so you have to extract that and grab one of 3 possible preview files that might exist inside that zip and make that the thumbnail, while in gimp files you cant just use convert command, even convert[0] will only turn the first layer into a thumbnail and thats completely useless. And to top off all that, I finally got thumbnails working in gnome/nautilus but Only the XCF thumbs will generate in cinnamon/nemo (I still have no clue why that is) but I cannot just switch to gnome because there is technically no gnome variant of Mint so gnome doesnt work 100%… etc etc etc
Linux is still not there, this stuff should be simple and automatic. If a 20 year professional took 4 hours to get this far, the average user will give up immediately. Yes Mint is still my daily driver, but seriously thumbnails should not be this much work.
Could you 'splain it to me? Cuz I installed Mint 3 months ago, totally happy, and I don’t get it.
I’d use the terminal more if it had better auto suggestions, and allowed me to treat the text like any normal text editor, instead of having to learn keyboard shortcuts just to basic text manipulation. So far Warp terminal is the best option I’ve found
The Windows terminal has some very good commands. ‘ssh username@server’ can log you right into a Linux machine!
Times like this make me miss reddit gold
Just make a $2 donation to their host. Much better than reddit gold.
Nope.
Lemmy Lemon 🍋?
I setup open SSH on windows so you can swing it both ways!
My main gripe is it runs cmd.exe and I gotta powershell to jump into that. If you auto powershell it doesn’t work right.
I’m on the other side of the coin, I really don’t know how I’m supposed to learn to use the terminal. I can do sudo apt get to get some programs and updates, as well as mv and cp, but that’s where it stops for me.
Maybe you need to have some sort of objective before you get started, otherwise yeah, you don’t have much to do in the console :) In my case I only use linux for work, so I’m ssh-ing away and running commands to compile this, apply that, show me the logs for this, grep that, etc.
I once installed HP shitbox printer drivers from the command line in 30 seconds, and the shitbox printer just…worked.
My heart soared higher than the eagle. I touched the face of the one true FOSS God, and felt that thing when astronauts have epiphanies about the Earth. 10/10, would recommend.
The moment I loved the FOSS community was when I went on an Linux IRC channel, complained about my wifi not working, and some stranger messaged me detailed instructions with a patch in 20 minutes that completely fixed my issue.
At the same time it encourages people to just trust whatever people are telling them to input in the terminal, which is potentially dangerous.
Piping curl into sh is sadly a very common install method these days
But you are right
Mine worked out of the box on mint. Like, it detected the network HP shitbox and I could print, no user intervention. I was floored.
Same on most distros I’ve tried recently. Fedora, OpenSUSE, CachyOS, Bazzite. Not vanilla Arch obviously
If you or someone you know wants a taste of that experience on Windows, try out winget or chocolatey.
i’d also recommend scoop. when i had windows before i switched, i preferred it to winget or chocolately.
Just wait until you find the fun TUI utilities, ill share a few:
- Shell: Fish (has powerful auto-complete, very fast, written in rust)
- Montior: Btop (monitors all system resources and processes)
- Fetch: Fastfetch (perfect for showing off on !unixporn@lemmy.world, for !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone Hyfetch is reccomnded)
- Brower: BrowSH (its a browser in your terminal)
- Text Editor: Vim (the best text editor, remeber to use esc + : + q to close or wq to write close vim. However when you open vim you can never quit)
- File manager: Ranger (if cd + ls is too inconvenient)
- Games (yes you can even play games in the terminal): 2048, Chess-TUI, NSnake, and Micro Tetris
next step to full on conversion is making your own dotfiles repo :)
Then get an old librebooted Thinkpad X230 with Arch GNU/Linux (and remind eveyone it’s GNU + Linux) :3
Just wait when you try AUR on arch systems. I was long time ubuntu based user but once I tasted rolling release and AUR I don’t want to go back.
I was a Nobara user and I’ve gone back. Too many updates that Bork the DE/bootloader (TBF it’s not as maintained as AUR) As for fedora… Random NVidia update borked the system too… But I’m resigned as my GPU being cursed rather than the distro being the isue
Isn’t it fun? It’s like owning your car and learning what everything actually does, and figuring out how to fix it. And having an amazing community to boot!. I enjoy it.
Niw you are doomed and there is no going back. Welcome to the gang;)
I really like having a hotkey bound to the terminal window, so I can pop open a terminal, check something, and return to what I was doing.
Why the hell did they misspell (and presumably mispronounce) tilde?
For a moment I wondered why I never bound a hotkey thusly, but it’s because I simply almost always have at least one terminal open in each workspace.
I don’t really use a mouse or window switcher, so I prefer the dedicated hotkey. It’s nice to have a single keystroke that brings me in or out of the same terminal across every desktop.
i like leaving top on all day just to watch it.
you’ve seen top, get ready for btop
I’m the htopopotamus, my processes are bottomless
i’m definitely ready to btop
You’ve taken your first step into a larger world.
