It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.
Yes, of course. Capitalism is an economic framework. A good political framework is needed, just like i said for socialism. This is a failure of the U.S. political implementation not of capitalism as a system of commerce. I would never say capitalism is the answer to all social ills. Your statement feels like a way to say I am wrong, so if I misunderstood, sorry.
Look up what a co-op is. You seem to have substantial misunderstanding that socialism is a replacement for democracy; it’s a replacement for capitalism.
What does it have to do with the fact you cannot identify a single socialist country where the workers are actually the owners of the production means?
Sure thing Cap’n - first thing in the morning I’ll be going around knocking on doors to try to find Soviet, Chinese and Cuban workers to ask them about their opinions.
This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.
It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.
Don’t tell all the tankies.
Apparently capitalist systems devolve into authoritarianism; as evidenced by living in 2025.
Yes, of course. Capitalism is an economic framework. A good political framework is needed, just like i said for socialism. This is a failure of the U.S. political implementation not of capitalism as a system of commerce. I would never say capitalism is the answer to all social ills. Your statement feels like a way to say I am wrong, so if I misunderstood, sorry.
How in god’s name is this promoting worker ownership of Apple’s phone production processes?
Last time I looked, the Soviet, Chinese and North Korean people didn’t own shit.
You just named 3 locations that aren’t socialist and of the three, one that no longer exists. Nice job.
Name just one where workers actually control something for fun.
Look up what a co-op is. You seem to have substantial misunderstanding that socialism is a replacement for democracy; it’s a replacement for capitalism.
A coop isn’t a country Peter Pan.
Vietnam… but why the hell do you need some rando on Lemmy to educate you?
Name one country that was either socialist or communist in the past that the USA didn’t proactively fuck with to try to harm at the time?
What does it have to do with the fact you cannot identify a single socialist country where the workers are actually the owners of the production means?
You are living in a imaginary world.
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So, socialism doesn’t exist according to your definition since nowhere on this planet workers control shit.
Ask former Soviet workers, Chinese workers, Cuban workers, North Korean workers and Vietnamese workers how much control on production they have.
Sure thing Cap’n - first thing in the morning I’ll be going around knocking on doors to try to find Soviet, Chinese and Cuban workers to ask them about their opinions.
Grow up, but read a book or two first.
I’ve been to China. I’ve been to Cuba. Have you?