Tumbleweed users RISE UP!
I’m doing my part
There are dozens of us, dozens!
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I’m on Slowroll though.
We’ll count you next month. 😉
Hahaha good one!
I’m here, and I’m proud! :-]
T U M B L E W E E D Master Race
Man, if only Linux would be adopted by the masses for gaming…
Android uses the Linux kernel but none of the familiar “Linux” stack: GNU, X or Wayland, GTK or Qt, GNOME or KDE or other DEs, PulseAudio or PipeWire, APT or YUM or other package managers, and many others that define the Linux experience. Google could replace the Linux kernel with something else tomorrow without touching the rest of Android and most users won’t tell, and many apps will run as-is.
Google tried that once, they developed Fuchsia with the intention of replacing Android and ChromeOS and realized the investment to develop a replacement is not worth it and decided to layoff all the secondary development team to find the budget for the AI people that they pay to not work in competitors.
Hoping for the AI bubble to burst any time now. I’m fucking tired of the management stuffing AI everywhere. Heck even the CEO now outsources Slack replies from ChatGPT.
Isn’t that why pedants call it “GNU/Linux” for those? Lol. (I was being facetious btw, I would marry GNU/Linux if I could.)
Yes, there are even some distros that use the Hurd kernel instead of Linux.
Yeah, it is the most popular consumer OS
Then VR games will work at better than min specs. Trying hard to get off windows, mostly there. Except when streaming VR games, Kubuntu is my daily driver. All my flat games (like 8 of them) work flawlessly now that cloud is syncing. Just need drivers for one device and software for another but may just have to deal with the loss of a left hand kb, and 2 buttons on trackball.
I did get some useful looking apps recommended not long ago, not 1 will compile on my os and I am way to tired at the end of the work day to read read and read some more(I used to do more complex stuff 20 yrs ago but, well, I forgot most of what I knew. Why is “make” looking to github instead of the directory I am in?
Proton is is coming along great, I used to support Cedega to play win games before.
I would be shocked if Linux VR support isn’t massively improved prior to Valve releasing the Deckard.
I don’t think Linux VR is particularly bad if you’re using steamvr things. Unfortunately WMR on the other hand is much worse (they have to write custom drivers for tracking, and especially controllers are not that far along yet)
Steam/SteamVR is where all my games are located, I like to have 1 launcher. Tho I cannot interact with the monitors from inside steamvr, yet, if i click on the window it closes unlike in windows where I control OBS and other stuff, also only shows 1 of my 2 monitors. BUT, when I get a chance the creator of Desktop+ that I use on windows suggested a linux app that does most of what his app does so that may give me the pc control I need since I do most everything in vr for streaming.
edit: I think some of my issue may be the poor old Ryzen 7 3800 I am using vs the RTX 4070ti super. The Ryzen 7 is having issues with a few games now, especially the VR mod ones like Satisfactory
So far, with the 2 games I have had a chance to try, other than having to lower the settings to bottom, they load and play if a little stuttery. With how Proton has improved by leaps and bounds I have no reason to believe it won’t keep improving at near the same pace. It is just that darn translation layer combined with the very high requirements of VR that needs to be overcome. If enough linux users go on the vr games and lament there is no linux native option we may get movement on that end. The flat games run so smooth right now I forget which OS I am using, compared to 2 years ago. I even have the disadvantage of an Nvidia card, at least the official driver is better meeting our requirements, shoulda gone AMD…
I’m using NVIDIA also, the only real problem I had was that HDR was annoying to get work because gamescope doesn’t play too well with NVIDIA. Now that I can just use native Wayland HDR I don’t have any real problems with my graphics card.
I don’t expect NVIDIA to improve anytime soon since they still have a chokehold on the data center market. IIRC the reason NVIDIA became quite stable relatively is because Valve assigned several of their engineers to work on NVIDIA drivers full time.
You have vr games working on linux? Im surprised
Yeah, make sure you get steam from the steam site not flat pack and if you use Nvidia, use the official Nvidia driver, also make sure you select compatibility in steam. Sometimes you need a different Proton version. Turn settings down and the fps will normalize.
Phone is Android, PC is now Linux Mint, for gaming I use a Steam deck, and my NAS is now TrueNAS.
Awesome. Will be interesting to see the November December numbers with unpaid Win10 support ending.
Yay!
Where are all the Ubuntu Core 22 installs coming from? Is there some large device or distro that uses it?
AFAIK, this corresponds to the snap package of Steam.
I feel like Ubuntu has the greatest exposure among non-Linux folks. It’s the only OS any place I’ve ever worked used on WSL back when I was still on windows. Probably a lot of corporate nerds want to stick to what’s comfortable?
I have no idea if that’s the reason, but Ubuntu and Mint are the only two distros I’ve tried for basically that reason. Heard good things about PopOS. Might try it some time if I wind up with an extra computer.
Regular Ubuntu I get; it’s specifically the separation in the list between core and the standard 24.04 distro that I don’t get. I can’t imagine that droves of nerds are installing straight Ubuntu Core unprompted. I’d absolutely buy though that some distro or some handheld is based on one.
I think PopOS was made especially for the System76 hardware, no? While it can still work on other hardware, System76 hardware is the one it was meant for.
Honestly, Ubuntu is great. It’s not bleeding edge where you can encounter yet unfixed bugs or other problems, and it’s not old enough that you can run into problems where the software is so old it doesn’t support the latest gaming stuff. It has great support from the community, it’s widespread, and comes with tons of quality of life things like tools to install 3rd party drivers, like graphical drivers for NVidia. Why change?
I worked with a guy who ran PopOS and loved it. He said the UI was really good. I’ve seen it get some love in social places. Figured I’d give it a shot some time.
I’m pretty happy with Mint. It’s comfortable and the conventions feel more familiar than even my work MacBook—like I don’t even know what the desktop is for except my screenshots show up there for some reason. I don’t think corporate would let me run Linux, but if they would I’d be happy with Mint or Ubuntu. They probably don’t want to support a million flavors of Linux desktop.
Personally I prefer Kubuntu.
I find Mint’s or Cinnamon’s look and feel a little too outdated. Reminds me too much of Gnome 2.
And Gnome changed their whole desktop paradigm since Gnome 3. I find Gnome 4 more suitable for a tablet. I feel too constrained and limited by it on a desktop PC. It’s awesome on my Surface Pro tablet though!
KDE Plasma kept the classic desktop paradigm like Windows, with a fresh modern look and tons of customizations. (Though I try to limit those as much as possible) You can configure it to your liking and add tons of really practical shortcuts. Its applications are also very powerful. Much more so than Gnome’s I find, which are more minimalistic.
Kubuntu is the way to go. KDE Plasma is such a great desktop. Just be sure to do the “Minimal” install so you can avoid Snaps like the disease they are.
Snaps aren’t as bad as people make them out to be. The only problem in Kubuntu is thflathead. Independent app to manage Snap security and access like flatseal. There is one, but you gotta install so much dependencies that you almost end up with the whole Gnome desktop. Otherwise it’s a great solution for use in Ubuntu Core for example.
I do prefer Flatpaks though.
TF2 bots
Yeah I was asking myself the same question. But it looks like they’ve started doing an Ubuntu Core setup for the Steam Deck.
Doing my part
I’m somewhat surprised there isn’t a Fedora there, it’s a pretty great and up-to-date distro. And pretty popular.
I’m also surprised Flatpak isn’t higher!
Fedora or Bazzite (Fedora-based) are my top recommendations for new Linux users. I’m constantly surprised at Mint’s general popularity, especially for gaming. Even openSUSE Tumbleweed is a better option when it comes to gaming.
Wanted to try bazzite but on my 13 year old cpu and mobo it wouldn’t boot. Mint ran perfectly.
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More people should use EndeavourOS. It’s fantastic for gaming.
I mean, that’s basically the same as Arch.
Yeah, just much easier to install, which is what I want from it, I never got the argument that by installing arch manually you “learn” what’s on your pc, idgaf, even as a software developer let alone a normie, I want a working system, that just works
You could still wonder why endeavour in particular is so great though, in the end it’s all linux.
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I’ve already used Cachy, but went back to Endeavour. I found Cachy’s “optimizations” to be a bit janky. At the time they enabled some items for ntsync that were clearly not ready for primetime.
Performance-wise, I compared the two head to head and found Cachy and Endeavor to be equally performant for gaming. Cachy just didn’t offer anything for me that Endeavor didn’t already do.
On top of this, I found Cachy’s packages to lag a bit behind the Arch and Endeavor repos, particularly in the Cachy-extras repository, and it ended up causing me issues with things I used from the AUR due to packaging conflicts (the old Manjaro type crap).
Cachy isn’t for me, though I get why people like it.
And if you like Manjaro your better off using another Distro in my opinion
personally any Arch based distro is not great for beginners its alright for intermediate Linux users and great for advanced Linux users
but Arch based distros are the best for gaming cause newest packages and its quite easy to get game packages (especially when you put repos like Chaotic-AURI’ve been thinking of switching back to Arch. Currently using Nobara, and its moved to rolling release anyway.
Nearly a third are coming from the Steam Deck and other Steam OS handhelds. Impressive.
bazzite bitches
I use Debian. Does this mean I’m in the top 0.05% of Steam users?
yes
Huh. The Year of the Linux Handheld.
🙋🏼♂️ new to Linux gaming.
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I bet that most of the steam flatpaks are on the Debian distros, specifically Mint. So if it wasn’t for steamos, Mint would probably be the first on the list.
Ubuntu has snap.
Debian is understandable since its packages are frozen for 2 Years
