• DerArzt@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Okay but who’s the one defining a protest as violent? You get enough people together and you’re going to have some aseholes that damage property but are the minority. If chocolate can have 5% bugs, then protests should be able to have 5% violence and still be called peaceful.

    Or heck, if people react when police instigate, should that be called a violent protest?

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      16 days ago

      Okay but who’s the one defining a protest as violent?

      I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with cocks

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      16 days ago

      Okay but who’s the one defining a protest as violent?

      From the article

      Perhaps most obviously, violent protests necessarily exclude people who abhor and fear bloodshed, whereas peaceful protesters maintain the moral high ground.

      Chenoweth points out that nonviolent protests also have fewer physical barriers to participation. You do not need to be fit and healthy to engage in a strike, whereas violent campaigns tend to lean on the support of physically fit young men. And while many forms of nonviolent protests also carry serious risks – just think of China’s response in Tiananmen Square in 1989 – Chenoweth argues that nonviolent campaigns are generally easier to discuss openly, which means that news of their occurrence can reach a wider audience. Violent movements, on the other hand, require a supply of weapons, and tend to rely on more secretive underground operations that might struggle to reach the general population.

      Violent protests seems to mean a violent campaign of armed, planned attacks.

      I doubt that would include unplanned outbreaks of violence from people not organized for that purpose.

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      16 days ago

      Okay but who’s the one defining a protest as violent?

      The same people who write the history books. History is written by the winners, and when they write those books the protests that led to them winning are written up as being non-violent. It’s like “terrorists” vs. “freedom fighters”. If they succeed, they get to write the history books and they’re freedom fighters. If they lose, the other side writes the history books and they’re terrorists.

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      16 days ago

      Are you arguing “it’s just a few bad apples” in defense of protests?

      This is awkward.

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        16 days ago

        YES, protesters are freely associating members of the general public, whereas the police are vetted and trained professionals, payed by taxes to “uphold the law”.
        They should be held to a higher standard!

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        16 days ago

        What is awkward is how you failed to realize how insanely dumb and context-free your logic is to come to such an assinine conclusion…

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          15 days ago

          Or how you presume there’s any conclusion or point. Just a silly observation. The two groups, protectors amd cops, are very related. It’s just a silly comparison. I’m not arguing any actual point.

          Sensitive bunch. I’ve literally agreed with ACAB for a long time.