Today in Lutris discord which I happen to lurk occasionally, I saw some lovely people were commenting in the offtopic channel about how they support Ethan Kleins lawsuit against Youtubers who criticised him, GamerGate bs, defending streamer sex pests and some other stuff. One person offhandedly mentions how they get their information from Asmongold.
If you’re not very online, Asmongold is a reactionary streamer who at one point declared he thinks Palestinians should be genocided because of their “inferior culture”. Ethan Klein is a somewhat well known youtuber/podcaster who has also spent the last year or so having a very public meltdown over Israel and his own fundamentally contradictory set of positions he’s tried to triangulate between.
Seeing this, I made a brief comment about Asmongolds stance mentioned above and why anyone would listen to him. I got racist responses claiming “Palestinians have been kicked out of every culture they’ve been in” and deflecting to “Look at Egypts border”.
Called out the racism and genocide apologia, the only person who was warned was me for not being civil. I replied “racism and genocide apologia is not civil”, referred to the fact the Lutris logo on discord has an LGBTQ flag, and was called a nutcase and banned.
tl:dr Lutris discord moderation is OK with racism and genocide, but you’re a “nutcase” if you call a spade a spade.
UPDATE: I was responded to on Mastodon and was accused of being the one making antisemtic comments. Others explained in the thread below there were some who made antisemitic comments after I was banned. I sincerely hope that’s a misunderstanding, but I don’t have much faith the moderator in question would be telling the truth about the events.
Fortunately for me I don’t use any crutches like Lutris to play games on linux, so I won’t have to visit their server.
discord in general can fuck off and die. unsearchable online and irritating as hell to search within itself, I’m already at max servers and not paying for more, the forum feature is janky as fuck and loses my scroll position, ui is garbage, etc.
I haven’t used lutris since it was new, and have been using bottles but I know nothinng about the devs or the community around it.
…I saw some lovely people were commenting in the offtopic channel about how they support Ethan Kleins lawsuit against Youtubers who criticised him, GamerGate bs, defending streamer sex pests and some other stuff. One person offhandedly mentions how they get their information from Asmongold.
Damn. That’s not just reactionary: it’s the cringiest type of reactionary one can be in this moment. I hope Heroic Game Launcher doesn’t also have this kind of cringe going on.
Are the Lutris devs responsible for the Discord or is it unofficial? If they’re in charge then this is really concerning.
At the very least it’s linked directly from their homepage and their masto page: https://fosstodon.org/@lutris
Discord is a cesspool overall, the only thing useful is when a “”“”“”““server””“”“” has the announcement thing that you can follow in your own “”“”“”“server”“”“”".
Who moderates the discord? the main lutris dev?
I don’t think so? I didn’t think to grab the username before I was kicked. But the discord is linked on the website and their masto page, invite link works, so people can probably see for themselves (offtopic channel).
I sent Lutris a DM on Patreon. I’ve been a patron for almost as long as it has existed. I’d really hate to stop supporting them but if they continue to tolerate racism in their official Discord I will have no choice.
Anyone else who is a patron should consider messaging the project as well.
Edit: Seems like the offending comments have been deleted, which seems appropriate. Hopefully that’s the end of it
I’m sorry but this is a terminally online issue that shouldn’t bother you. Who is chatting off topic in the lutris discord? Who even uses discord? I think neither of those have any effect on one’s use of Lutris or is necessary to get mad about. I’m sure there are more important things for the people running the project to worry about
I’m sorry you don’t care that spaces adjacent to software projects aren’t properly moderated, but I think it’s pretty important if developers are going to publicise spaces to get tech support, talk about the project, contribute etc. that they shouldn’t be home to racist and even genocidal rhetoric as a baseline of decency.
And if you don’t have the means to moderate these spaces, don’t operate them and certainly don’t promote and link them on your official site and other social media. Is it really terminally online to not want far right adjacent shit associated with your project and promoted across your websites as the place to go for support?
