And the ones preventing society from organizing properly are the ones building/using these shitty AIs to further manipulate society
Very similar to global warming. If government AI policy is to strengthen military, empire, zionism, and oligarchy then voters need to be miserable and have bigger issues in their lives and hatred towards trans hispanic immigrant pet eaters.
Skynet is awesome, and will be programmed for such supremacy. The same techbros who say polite things about UBI/freedom dividends/Universal high income are the ones vying to take all of our money to deliver skynet. If the slave class doesn’t take political influence before skynet, then “power sharing with the slaves” through UBI is far less likely than genocide of the uppity classes.
Maybe we just can’t count ''r’s properly and it is our fault!
The problem is that we absolutely can build a sustainable society on our own. We’ve had the blueprints forever, the Romans worked this out centuries ago, the problem is that there’s always some power seeking prick who messes it up. So we gave up trying to build a fair society and just went with feudalism and then capitalism instead.
The Romans had a slave economy. I don’t really think that counts as sustainable or even having worked it out.
So do we. We just leave them in another country so we don’t have to think about them.
The Romans were one of the most extractive and wasteful empires in history. Wtf are you on about???
Heading back towards feudalism.
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If we can’t build an equitable, sustainable society on our own, it’s pointless to hope that a machine that can’t think
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Whether it be AI apocalypse or utopia, it’s not LLM’s that people think will take us there. It’s AGI/ASI and nobody knows how long it’ll take us to develop a system like that. Could take 2 years or it could take 50.
I keep being told by experts that AGI is inevitable. Yet all I ever see is people constantly go on about LLMs, so I don’t know what to think. Are they lying, is it all just a bubble that’s going to burst or is there actually some utility there that is being hidden by the LLM hype? If so, can’t we just use the actual AI rather than these other things.
There’s no such thing as “actual AI.” AI is just a broad term that encompasses all artificial intelligence systems. A chess engine, ChatGPT, and HAL 9000 are all examples of AI - despite being fundamentally different. A chess engine is a narrow AI, ChatGPT is a large language model, and HAL 9000 would qualify as AGI.
It could be argued that AGI is inevitable - assuming general intelligence isn’t substrate-dependent (meaning it doesn’t require a biological brain) and that we don’t destroy ourselves before we get there. But the truth is, nobody knows how difficult it is to create AGI, or whether we’re anywhere close. There’s a lot of hype around generative AI right now because it remotely resembles what AGI might look like - but that doesn’t guarantee it’s taking us any closer. It could be a stepping stone - or a total dead end.
So what I hear you asking is: “Can’t we just use task-specific narrow AI instead of creating AGI?” And yes, we could - but we’re never going to stop improving these systems. And every step of progress brings us closer to AGI, whether that’s the goal or not. The only things that might stop us are hitting a fundamental wall (like substrate dependence) or wiping ourselves out.
There’s also the economic incentive. AGI would be the ultimate wealth generator. All the incentives point toward building it. It’s a winner-takes-all scenario: if you’re the first to create a true AGI, your competition will likely never catch up - because from that point on, the AGI can improve itself. And then the improved version can further improve itself, and so on. That’s how you get to the singularity: an intelligence explosion that leads to Artificial Superintelligence (ASI) - a level of intelligence far beyond human comprehension.
While I appreciate them talking in good faith, all these articles that warn against misusing technology really sound out of touch from our reality.
It’s capitalism, of course it would be misused cause of our economic incentives.
When it comes to AI, you either don’t like it or are trying to make money from it, no one expects it to actually work so the entire point is moot.
This is the last paragraph of the article:
AI seems to present a spectacular new slate of opportunities and threats. But, in essence, much of what was true before AI remains so now. Human greed and desire for greater control over nature and other people may lead toward paths of short-term gain. But, if you want a good life when all’s said and done, learn to live well within limits. Live with honesty, modesty, and generosity. AI can’t help you with that.
Yeah no shit
