A robot trained on videos of surgeries performed a lengthy phase of a gallbladder removal without human help. The robot operated for the first time on a lifelike patient, and during the operation, responded to and learned from voice commands from the team—like a novice surgeon working with a mentor.

The robot performed unflappably across trials and with the expertise of a skilled human surgeon, even during unexpected scenarios typical in real life medical emergencies.

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    4 hours ago

    Not fair. A robot can watch videos and perform surgery but when I do it I’m called a “monster” and “quack”.

    But seriously, this robot surgeon still needs a surgeon to chaperone so what’s being gained or saved? It’s just surgery with extra steps. This has the same execution as RoboTaxis (which also have a human onboard for emergencies) and those things are rightly being called a nightmare. What separates this from that?

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    6 hours ago

    “OMG it was supposed to take out my LEFT kidney! I’m gonna die!!!”

    “Oops, the surgeon in the training video took out a Right kidney. Uhh… sorry.”

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    5 hours ago

    so theoretically they could make sex bots and train them on… so they perform ‘unflappably’!

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      14 hours ago

      know what? let’s just skip the middleman and have the CEO undergo the same operation. you know like the taser company that tasers their employees.

      can’t have trust in a product unless you use the product.

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        8 hours ago

        I understand what you are saying is intended as „if they trust their product they should use it themselves“ and I agree with that

        I do think that undergoing an operation that a person doesnt need isnt ethical however

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    11 hours ago

    So are we fully abandoning reason based robots?

    Is the future gonna just be things that guess but just keep getting better at guessing?

    I’m disappointed in the future.

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    12 hours ago

    Naturally as this kind of thing moves into use on actual people it will be used on the wealthiest and most connected among us in equal measure to us lowly plebs right…right?

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      12 hours ago

      Are you kidding!? It’ll be rolled out to poor people first! (gotta iron out the last of the bugs somehow)

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        9 hours ago

        You really don’t understand modern medical bullshit. The rich will be all over this, just like AI, Just like NFTs just like every bullshit thing that comes up they get roped into by a flashy salesman

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          8 hours ago

          Oh yeah, I’ve been successfully propagandized into thinking rich people became rich through merit, I forgot how many of them are complete morons XD

          Thanks for reminding me

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    My son’s surgeon told me about the evolution of one particular cardiac procedure. Most of the “good” doctors were laying many stitches in a tight fashion while the “lazy” doctors laid down fewer stitches a bit looser. Turns out that the patients of the “lazy” doctors had a better recovery rate so now that’s the standard procedure.

    Sometimes divergent behaviors can actually lead to better behavior. An AI surgeon that is “lazy” probably wouldn’t exist and engineers would probably stamp out that behavior before it even got to the OR.

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      14 hours ago

      That’s just one case of professional laziness in an entire ocean of medical horror stories caused by the same.

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        Or more likely they weren’t actually being lazy, they knew they needed to leave room for swelling and healing. The surgeons that did tight stitches thought theirs was better because it looked better immediately after the surgery.

        Surgeons are actually pretty well known for being arrogant, and claiming anyone who doesn’t do their neat and tight stitching is lazy is completely on brand for people like that.

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        13 hours ago

        Eliminating room for error, not to say AI is flawless but that is the goal in most cases, is a good way to never learn anything new. I don’t completely dislike this idea but I’m sure it will be driven towards cutting costs, not saving lives.

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    15 hours ago

    That’s ridiculous. Everyone knows that for a robot to perform an operation like this safely, it needs human-written code and a LiDAR.

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    16 hours ago

    If we go by that logic, some worker from your supermarket should be able to do surgeries

    Doctors have to learns this much so they can handle most really unusual stuff, not because they have to know this for a standard surgery.