I’m putting together a gaming system for the kind of person who needs help if their TV is set to the wrong input. Obviously I’m committing myself to providing a certain amount of tech support no matter what, but I’m wondering if any of these modern Linux distros can provide a user experience at least on par with Windows in terms of ease of use and reliability for someone who doesn’t know how to do much more than check their email and log in to Steam.
So far, I’ve looked at Bazzite, Cachy, Nobara, and PopOS based on what I commonly see recommended here. I’m leaning toward Bazzite based on its stated goal of being friendly to Linux newcomers, and the quality and amount of available documentation. Are there any other distros I’ve missed, or other considerations that might sway my preference?
I’d also like to hear about your subjective experiences with Linux gaming:
- What distro are you using for gaming?
- How long have you used it?
- How often have you had issues that require Linux knowledge and/or searching the web to solve?
- Have you had any other minor/annoying complaints?
Arch
2 years
Proton-GE has run everything I’ve thrown at it. Only thing I really needed the internet for was to figure out which Nvidia driver I needed during the Arch install.
Nope, I left Ubuntu for Arch to get away from those problems (Snaps, and how long it sometimes took for updates to get to the repos)
What distro are you using for gaming?
I use Secureblue, though I’d rather recommend normal Fedora
- CachyOS
- More than a year
- I had to setup snapshots and timeshift
- A bug between kdrive app and key wallet from KDE (I can still not auto log in the app on Wayland at start.)
I decided to set the snapshots in order to recover in case of bad update. Then I decided to update the system at least once a week brainlessly, just to see how much time it takes to break. so far, I’ve never used the snapshots.
a gaming system for the kind of person who needs help if their TV is set to the wrong input.
Definitely Bazzite. It’s almost impossible to break, it’s effortless to roll back if something does theoretically go wrong, and KDE Plasma is like the most user friendly version of Windows you’ve never seen.
On it since Beta ~2+ years. It’s “Dad Linux”. It’s “Chromebook-easy Linux.” Like a smartphone it keeps 2 OS images at all times. If an update ever goes bad, just rollback to the previous image.
Also let’s you roll with
bazzite-testing
more confidently, without worrying about your system breaking.You can even install Kinoite and Rebase to Bazzite alternatively!
“I FINALLY listened to you and tried Linux… Why did I wait so long?” GardinerBryant: “Bazzite just had a HUGE UPGRADE! (And more Linux Gaming News)”
Checkout the new Bazaar Flatpak Store app! Super easy to manage applications.
No more messing with Gnome Software or KDE Discover.
I would recommend Mint over PopOS if that ends up being the choice, but Bazzite is probably the safest choice here. Both Cinnamon and Plasma should be pretty easy to navigate for someone used to Windows. Nobara is great, but personally I would stay away from distros with so few maintainers (only GE?). GE is an amazing dev and has done some great things for gaming on linux, but the chance of having to switch distros sooner or later is fairly large. If you don’t mind helping them with that, then I don’t think you can go wrong with Nobara either. Personally I currently run CachyOS with KDE Plasma and it’s been super solid for my use case including gaming, but I would not recommend any Arch-based distros to “the kind of person who needs help if their TV is set to the wrong input” even if it is quite beginner friendly and stable. But I also keep Windows around on a separate drive regardless for the times when Linux isn’t the right tool for the job, most notably because a lot of competitive games do not run on linux as they require kernel level anti-cheat (https://areweanticheatyet.com/). If the person you are referring to have no interest in those kinds of games, then that becomes a non-issue, but if their favourite game is something like Valorant or Fortnite then Linux simply isn’t a good choice for them yet. That is also true for some Windows-exclusive applications. Most applications have good alternatives or can run fine through something like Bottles or Lutris, but some don’t.
Otherwise, most games typically work fine (https://protondb.com/). Some work flawlessly without having to do anything. Some only require minor tweaks like setting a launch parameter or selecting a specific proton version. Those I believe would be acceptable, if not perhaps a little frustrating for such a person, but there are also a lot of games that run but can have issues of varying degrees that you can’t do anything about. They are almost always good enough, but sometimes those issues can be significant. What I suspect would be a killer is that some games may stop working after an update which requires further tweaking or simply staying broken until either the game devs or proton devs fixes it.
Linux Mint, Wine Bottles/Steam, 3 years, never had any issues, but I mostly run older games. I cant speak for newer games or competitive multi player games
This is my first time hearing of Bottles. It looks like it serves a similar purpose to Lutris? Have you used both, and if so, how do they compare?
I set up Ubuntu for my somewhat non-technical brother (not as non technical as you mentioned, but not someone who will ever open CLI), and they used it happily until their laptop got too old and they had to change (5-7 years, even upgraded to next LTS once)
So, I will vote for something stable and mainstream like that. Set up steam on that, and they should be good to go.
Ubuntu would probably be my first pick if I hadn’t been seeing so much praise for all these “gaming” distros recently - it’s definitely a contender if I run into any showstoppers.
I distrohopped for a long time, usually because I got fed up with something not being available for that distro and having to compile from source, and usually failing that despite following the instructions to the letter…
Until I ended up on Nobara.
I’ve used it for a couple years now, been relatively painless for gaming. Everythings compiled/installed/ready for show time from the start. Honestly the gaming experience on linux in general, thanks to proton advancements, has been so smooth that the rare time I have an issue its usually because of a game bug and nothing to do with linux… I do make a point of avoiding games that have excessive anti-cheat though.
I’ve had two issues in as many years of using it that required hitting the Nobara discord, which had the solutions already pinned, and the solutions were little more than a command to copy into the terminal. Folks in the discord are wonderful, helpful people to the not-technical, too.
I don’t have any real minor/annoyances with Nobara the OS, or really even Linux as a whole. my only real ongoing complaint (and this isnt a linux specific issue at all) is a combination of discord being used as a support medium/knowledge base for everything anymore, and the enshittification of search engine results from SEO… So now you cant ever find the solution for any problem, no matter what its about, because half the answers are locked away on discord where search engines cant index, and the other half a buried and unfindable due to a billion AI generated Search Engine Optimized websites/pages that bury any relevant, valuable information so deeply as to be impossible to find without a pith helmet, torches, and long expedition.
Personally I’d say none of the above for newbies. I have had experience with Nobara and it’s OK but I literally had problems with GPG certificates for updates for the second time in 3 months, and yesterday the update engine crashed during an update and my plasma desktop only showed a black screen with a cursor on it when I logged in.
I can problem solve that but it’s annoying as hell and not suitable for someone who doesn’t want to do that.
Pick a more mainstream distro and not something that is rolling release. They don’t need that - they need something that is rock solid. The gaming modifications on distros are overrated - they only matter if you really want to push things to the limit.
I’d probably go with Mint for your scenario. It’s stable, and the 22.1 is a long term release up to 2029 - so it’s unlikely to break with a major update.
I’d personally go with KDE over cinnamon - it’s user friendly but its slicker than the default desktops in Mint and will make the machine feel more high end as a gaming machine. There is also scope to customise it if the person using that wants to go down that route or has something they’re already familiar with (KDE very flexible - feels like a nicer version of windows GUI by default but can make it look like MacOS or even Gnome, or whatever you want tbh). Cinnamon and Mate have flexibility too but KDE has a whole ecosystem of software to draw on and doesn’t suffer from Gnomes rather marmite design philosophy.
In terms of games - use Steam where possible. It’ll “just work”. There is almost no configuration required and personally I have a huge games library and haven’t had to troubleshoot anything so far. I don’t play competitive games or the highest end fps games though. But I’ve just completed cyberpunk 2077 on my desktop, which is a 3070 and had no issues.
Some popular games like Minecraft have their own clients and set up but it’s not difficult to set up once and leave it going.
Lutris is a good games client if they do have games in other stores like GOG or Epic, and it works well with steam too. Heroic is also a good multi store client - slick and easy to use if that’s preferred, good for gog, Epic and amazon.
Whatever you chose to do, keep.ot simple. I’d honestly avoid the gaming distros and go for something stable and widely support like Mint. Definitely avoid pure Ubuntu, and avoid rolling releases of anything and you should be fine support wise.
Very good point about rolling release vs point release - I’ll definitely factor that into the final decision.
The primary reason I’m considering gaming distros is to have everything be as out-of-the-box as possible. I was thinking that issues with Steam/Proton will be less likely on a distro purpose-built to support them. But based on several of the comments here, it sounds like that might not be the case.
It’s going to be pure Steam and maybe a Minecraft install, so no concerns there. Keeping it simple is my goal.
Thanks for your insights!
Yeah I wouldn’t worry about Steam, it’ll work.
The most important thing is your graphics drivers and they’re largely the same between distros. Even with non rolling distros usually there are ways to stay with the latest drivers if that’s needed.
For Minecraft, best route is Java edition. There is an official Microsoft installer for Java, and If they’re into modded Minecraft then MultiMC is a better Linux launcher than the Microsoft one as it makes modding much easier; they just need to login to their Microsoft account within it to get going.
You can get Bedrock to work if that’s essential but it is unofficial and definitely needs a special launcher and a little bit faffy to set up. But it works.
All the stuff that gaming distros offer like optimised kernels really is marginal stuff. Definitely keep it simple; it’ll make your life much easier supporting it all and it will give your friend/family member a good stable experience so they can just focus on having fun.
I would genuinely not recommend Linux at all for someone who “needs help if their TV is set to the wrong input”. Just being completely honest there.
But if you’re absolutely set on it, probably Mint.
Edited to add:
- Currently using Cachyos.
- Few months.
- Very often.
- Too many to list. I’ll put it this way, I’ve started an ongoing library of issues and how I fixed them.
Yeah, I am half expecting this not to work out, and I am fully prepared to install and debloat Windows for them if I have to. But I love Linux, so I want to give it a shot at least.
Linux gaming has gotten really good and continues to get better. Currently, I’d agree with what most of the other responses here have been and say Mint or Pop!_OS
This doesn’t help for the current build you’re setting up and I’m not suggesting to wait for it, but for the future I’d suggest also to keep an eye on SteamOS and when Valve eventually releases it for people to just download and install on whatever machine, it’s likely going to be the best option for this kind of scenario
I definitely checked up on SteamOS general availability first since my Deck experience has been great haha
I started with Bazzite but didn’t like that it was immutable. I broke the permissions on my drive and had to reinstall trying to force it to let me change the login screen background.
After that I switched to Garuda and have had it about a year.
The most painful part was figuring out what Linux uses as app stores and how they work. Bazzite just released Bazaar and I haven’t tried it yet but I hear it works on other distros too. Software installation and management is the biggest hurdle to easy use and that gap is closing fast.
The most common problem I have had is that a Windows app stops working and I try a different version of proton and the problem goes away.
I have only ever had to use the command like when doing weird stuff. Most people won’t need to.
Garuda also has a great helper app that lets you choose common starting software with check boxes, has buttons for updates, firmware, and other common settings, tweaks, and troubleshooting tools. It makes it pretty painless to get started.
Garuda also comes with KDE, Gnome, or Xfce (your choice) so you can get the desktop experience you like.
I think what matters more for a beginner is the desktop environment (DE). For someone coming from Windows I recommend using KDE Plasma for a DE. Ever since Plasma 6 it has become one of the best DE out there.
I’ve used:
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Mint : Solid, easy, but runs Cinnamon as a DE, which is OK and looks nice but lacks functionality for multiple displays. You can switch it to KDE Plasma but it is unofficially supported and can only run Plasma 5 which is was not a mature version IMO. It is glitchy and lacks the functionalities that makes Plasma 6 complete. Ultimately if you are using a single monitor Mint is a great choice, just stick to Cinnamon.
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OpenSUSE Tumbleweed : It runs Plasma 6 out of the box. It also allows you to easily set up BTRFS Snapshot (a solid and easy to use recovery mode should something break your install) and encryption right at the install setup. If I remember well, Mint also has that support. It was remarkably stable for a rolling release distribution but I did have to use the Snapshot rollback a few times, mostly because NVidia kept messing up its driver updates. It is also a slightly oddball distro so you might sometimes encounter something that needs a minor workaround or require slightly different commands to work, something I always found a solution to with a quick internet search. The rolling release also means there are tons of updates coming out almost every day, which gets annoying after a while. Their package manager (zypper) is also relatively slow, not supporting parallel downloads yet. They are currently testing a Slow Release version (as opposed to Tumbleweed which is the rolling release version) that would tame it down but it’s not officially released yet.
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I’m now running Fedora KDE and I’m happy with it. It is easy to install and it just works. It is relatively mainstream so things work better. It is also very stable. The caveat being that the installation process doesn’t include any support for easily setting up BTRFS snapshots and encrypted home folder. There is however a very solid step by step instructions video on YouTube on how to set it up and explaining what and why you are doing at every step that I used to set it up for myself. It is quite the process however and the installer has changed slightly since the video was made so there was a bit of hunting around.
They all work relatively easily with their own pros and cons.
I haven’t tried it personally, but I think that Kububtu could also be an option for you . It is the KDE Plasma version of the most popular Linux distribution.
IMO as long as you don’t pick something like Arch and don’t mind doing a few quick web searches when you have questions it should be fine.
I’m disappointed to hear that Mint doesn’t have Plasma 6 yet - I use Plasma 5 daily, so I’m familiar with its issues.
I’m unfamiliar with btrfs, but I feel like I remember it being a bit controversial at some point. AFAIK ext4 is still standard. Seems like btrfs has gained some popularity though, so I’ll have to give that a look.
Fedora is probably my next choice after Ubuntu in terms of mainstream non-gaming distros, so I’m happy to see a vote for it.
Thanks for your insight!
I recommend BTRFS with snapper for anyone who isn’t an expert, which includes myself.
With BTRFS with Snapper, should something break your install short of breaking your bootloader, it makes recovery completely idiot proof.
It is literally a matter of scrolling through a menu that appears for 3 seconds at startup to select an option in the lines of “boot from snapshot”, pick a snapshot in the list that is time stamped to a time/date when your install still worked, let it boot up, make sure your OS started up fine, go in the console and enter the command “sudo snapper rollback” (which will tell the system to make the snapshot you are currently running the default one), enter your password and then reboot. Bam, you’ve just rolled back your OS to a point before it got broken. You don’t even need to understand what broke it to begin with.
It saved my ass a few times already. Trying to recover a broken operating system without this tool requires a whole lot more knowledge than I have.
I’ve just learned that the latest Trixie version of Debian runs Plasma 6 as well. Another route to explore depending how new your hardware is.
It is also to be noted that this means that Plasma 6 support will likely trickle down to Linux Mint through Linux Mint Debian Edition 7. Eventually, maybe. If that happens, it will become a solid package for users who want a very stable, approachable and easy to use distro that is compatible with KDE Plasma 6. It might not come pre-packaged with KDE Plasma, but it should be relatively simple and quick to follow a walkthrough to install it after since at its core it will be compatible with it.
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