I’d have picked Tom Bombadill over Gandalf to line up against Q
Both hobbit and space hobbit defy all odds to inexplicably save the day. It’s apt.
Scotty might be a space dwarf, but O’Brien is a space hobbit through and through.
Keiko is Gollum
This makes Keiko being a teacher even funnier.
OP did Wil Wheaton wrong.
Wesley certainly is annoying for his first couple appearances, but I don’t really think we should hold season 1 against any TNG character. He has good moments later, and The First Duty is a straight up excellent episode.
On the other hand, hobbits aren’t annoying either. They didn’t ask to get roped into all that nonsense. Elves are the annoying ones in LotR.
“I will take the ring to Mordor, though I do not know the way.” - Frodo
(I know, he didn’t have much of a choice, but I had to lol)Ya got me. But he did at least try to unload it on Gandalf and Galadriel.
OP didnt do Wil Wheaton wrong, the writers that came up with Wesley Crusher were the ones who did Wil Wheaton wrong.
As a Scotsman I should be insulted but I always play a dwarf in D&D so I’ll allow it
I would argue that overt mysticism is what, largely, separates fantasy from science fiction. So something like Star Wars would, in my mind, be far more space fantasy than Star Trek.
Mind melds, Q magic, and the Prophets from DS9 are all overt magic. Like why can only Vulcans do mind melds? If it were science you’d be able to create a technology that would be able to do it. But nah in Star Trek, they don’t even try to develop technology to do mind melds because it’s something everyone knows only Vulcans can do… because it’s magic.
When Q was temporarily human, he mentioned being able to change physics constants. Geordi wasn’t like “holy shit that totally changes how we think about science” he’s just like “we can’t do that because we aren’t Q.”
The powers that aliens have in Star Trek is treated as being magic by the people in the universe. Some aliens just have magical abilities and nobody questions it.
Meanwhile in Star Wars, all of the powers the Jedi have are explained by microscopic organisms that can be measured with a device. Sure nobody likes that, because we actually do want Star Wars to be fantasy and not science fiction. But (for better or worse) Star Wars is more science fiction and Star Trek is more space fantasy.
Vulcans are telepathic and there are technologies in the Star Trek cannon that can allow mind reading or inhibit telepathic ability.
The Q and the Prophets are higher dimensional beings.
These powers are never treated as magic just not currently achievable. In fact there are whole episodes of each series (TNG’s Who Watches the Watchers is one) that deal with the idea that not understanding technology doesn’t make it magic. Most of the crew of Deep Space 9 refer to the Prophets as ‘Wormhole Aliens’ specifically because they don’t believe their powers are magic or godly.
They’re both space operas, but Star Wars is pretty much pure “science fantasy” where Star Trek is soft science fiction, based in the idea of speculation and morality.
There are human telepaths in Star Trek, too, Miranda Jones comes to mind.
There’s also Landru, who built a telepathic computer that controlled the entire population.
Pretty sure the universal translator and combadges all work off telepathy, but that could just be my head cannon.
I do agree it’s all basically space-magic; though.
Also, the engineering in Star Trek is largely more likely than in Star Trek. (For example, warp drive violates causality,)
Every true Scotsman knows about space
Dwarf =? Scotsman
That is correct.
the Dwarfs in the original fairy tale lore of western Europe were just regular elves who liked mountains and mining.
Aye, lad.
The human one made me chortle.
Could have said “space horny (human)”
Would make more sense to compare LOTR to Star Wars because it’s usually given the space opera fantasy title. Star Trek is just regular science fiction.
Only Star Trek fans that think it being science fiction makes it better than space fantasy keep saying that. But really both Star Trek and Star Wars are space fantasy, with Star Trek being more fantasy than Star Wars. It’s basically Homer’s Odyssey but with space ships. They’re constantly meeting magical beings that put them into moral quandries.
In Star Wars there’s only one magic, and in canon it’s the result microscopic organisms that can be measured with technology. Yes it’s treated as a religion, but science fiction is about how things affect a society, and people having mind powers probably would be considered like a religion. It’s actually strange that (other than the Bajorans) nobody in Star Trek develops religions around the magical powers ever other alien race has.
Star Wars does have more than one sorta mystical religions too. It’s not just relegated to the force or mideochloreans. The Nightsisters of Dathomir have their own magic (makes them force sensitive as well) they get from the planet itself; is a good example of this.
I just figured I tend to like epic quests with funny looking people.
Don’t ruin Star Trek for me. Seriously.
Glory, not even once.
40K did it better.
I mean, the only real difference is setting and content between scifi and fantasy, so… This meme is simply ignoring all the parts that are significantly different. If you boil things down to character archetypes, then you could probably construct this meme about most anything. (especially with the tongue in cheek engineer and nuisance not really being so similar)
