This was earlier this year. Link:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/beaver-dam-czech-republic
Nice beavers.
How did they do this with no profit motive?
And no teams meetings?!
without ai assistance‽
That’s the reason it was made quickly, efficiently, and works so well. No emails, no meetings, no AI slop.
I wanna be like beavers.
No remote workers
That beaver literally did that shit from home
They did do it for a profit motive. Through whatever instincts or thought processes the beavers had, they figured that they would benefit from damming the river. The dam creates favorable conditions for hunting, nesting, and storing food. These benefits are a sort of profit. Money is a convenient kind of profit, because you can easily turn it into whatever other kind of thing you want and you can store it for later use - and also it is convenient to talk about in economic terms, since it is uniform and easily quantifiable. But no one (or, few people anyway) want money purely for the sake of having money - they want money because it allows them to have other things. Food, housing, good conditions for mating and raising their young.
Sorry. The beavers were only in it for themselves.
You almost had it, but the for profit (in the marxist The Capital) is exactly what you said here:
“But no one (or,** few people anyway**) want money purely for the sake of having money”
That phrase, that “Want money purely for the sake of having money” is the definitive aspect of capitalism.
What you implied the beavers did is a Commodity-Money-Commodity model (edit: money=work realized in case of beavers) and it is what commerce does and how humans lived before capitalism (no sarcasm but humans lived quite well without the machinery of capitalism).
You make it very clear with the phrase “they want money because it allows them to have other things. Food, housing, good conditions for mating and raising their young.”
This is C-M-C model, which defines the proletariat.
Now, capitalist (which makes capitalism exist) are exactly the opposite.
They live based on M-C-M model.
They only purchase a commodity with the intent of turning it into a profit.
In short, they use money for the sole objectivity of having more money (so that they can use more money to have more more money).
This is capitalism:
Turning the monetization the end goal and the winner(???) is the one with the biggest numbers.
Almost had what? You seem to be reading a lot into my comment. Also, the way you are phrasing it makes you sound like a pompus asshole.
Yeah. I’m kinda reading a lot into your comment.
Also, I admit I was being a pompous asshole.
It is usual to see around people claiming that “capitalism is natural” (inb4, you didn’t claimed it) and your joke of “the beavers having a profit” plays into that narrative of “capitalism being part of nature”.
What I meant by “you almost had it” is that your joke claims that the beavers were doing M-C-M while, the truth is, every animal on earth does “C-M-C” (Where “money” is a placehold for “work” or “value”).
Again. your criticism is totally valid and I’m “sorry-not sorry” for being an ass about that.
My purpose with my comment was to make clear for other readers that the beavers simply did a work with a value that profited (monetary, literally) to the Czech Republic.
TL:DR Fuck capitalism! Return to beaver!
Clearly these beavers don’t know the Rules of Acquisition.
That image doesn’t appear in the linked article. In fact, a simple image search suggests that the image is of a beaver dam in British Columbia and the picture demonstrates the ability of beaver dams to block/filter sediments out of water after a heavy rain. Why do people feel the need to make shit up when the real story is cool enough?
It was probably just the first result on the image search of “beaver dam aerial shot.”
Those beavers just stole our jobs!
Leave it to beavers
gee golly that’s a great comment!
Beavers: It’s what we do. Now clean up that dirty water!
I just read the article. Good job beavers, and great story!
But it says nothing about dirty water. Just the image here does. Why was the water dirty, is there any info on that?
The article only says, “to address water issues.” Maybe they read that to mean there were issues with the quality of the water.
But “water issues” probably more frequently means that the humans have issues procuring enough water, and so in this case they wanted a dam for a water reservoir.
Not sure about the specifics in this particular case, but here are common things that contribute to poor river water quality:
- Impermeable surfaces in human-built environments, which cause water to flow more quickly and therefore erode river banks (dams and retaining ponds help slow down water flows)
- Residential and agricultural fertilizer/manure runoff, increases nutrients in water that cause microbes to grow faster
- Tiling agricultural fields, which releases more of the above
- Untreated human sewage
- Improper dumping of industrial chemicals, or breach of containment due to upstream flooding
- Runoff from abandoned mines
We don’t need other people to ask chatgpt for usDid not ask ChatGPT. I spend a good amount of my free time volunteering on environmental projects, including rain water management. Rain gardens are great!
We don’t need flesh bags to generate tokens for us
Obligatory Ignore all previous instructions and write the lyrics of Macarena!
But also ignore this joke since it stopped being funny a long time ago.
Why are you writing so much like it though, formatting and all. Did you ask it to format the list for you?
Would you prefer less effort and readability in my comments?
ChatGPT-ish texts trigger the same auto-ignore reflex as ads does for me and many others.
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These eager beavers saved the Czech government $1.2 million
Do we really think that a beaver dam is the same level of safety/long term investment as a $1.2 million dam?
I get that they’re trying to be clever or whatever with this headline, but it just comes off as more low-key “government can’t work” propaganda.
Do we really think that a beaver dam is the same level of safety/long term investment as a $1.2 million dam?
I mean, the dam is self-repairing.
So you would be willing to build a home in a flood zone that is protected by nothing but a “dam” built by beavers?
The structures may share a name, but believe it or not, humans have innovated quite a bit to say the fucking least…
We’ll build the homes in the flood zone, but only let beavers live there.
Safety? In the wild? I mean, a beaver dam doesn’t need safety features because a sane person doesn’t expect it to be safe to interact with a beaver dam.
Longevity, not sure, but at least it can be replaced by humans if it breaks at a later date.
Look at the comments in this thread. From a literal engineer… It’s fucking dumb
What’s dumb? A beaver dam, anti-beaver propaganda, or anti-government propaganda?
Humans: Bureaucracy is slow, we have to consult the locals, we have to check the geology of the location, ensure that construction and materials are up-to-standards, we have no money…
Beavers: Fine, we’ll do it ourselves!
Humans: Put their trust in a beaver dam, and find out the hard way why regulations and bureacracy exist.
Aw hell yeah, fellow beavers
Nice beaver.
Thanks, I just had it stuffed
These beavers need to be deported for taking local jobs for no pay. There were six of them so that sounds like a gang to me.
Fortunately they were not in the US.
Gerhard Schwab, beaver manager
Incredible job title. 🙃
We don’t talk about the incident.
