People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.
Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition
what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?
Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!
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this was one of my favorite games for a long time. i disagree that it predicted everything; i think people retroactively assign predictions to it the way they do for horoscopes.
on the contrary, i think it aged poorly, though not at all of its own fault. the problem is that it was supposed to be ridiculous—the game world is essentially the answer to “what if every conspiracy theory was true?” and it was fun to explore at the time. but after the rise of right wing conspiracy nuts and their spill into the mainstream and even governments, it doesn’t hit the same.
now it feels like what a right wing nutjob would write. again this is not at all the fault of the game, but it feels weird now because it’s like you’re playing qanon’s game.
this is sort of a similar phenomenon to Don’t Look Up, in my opinion. i believe at the time it was conceived the movie was supposed to be a ridiculous over-the-top satire, but by the time it was released the right wing went so insane that people just thought it was too on-the-nose.
That’s funny, Its crazy that so many over the top works satire become reality. Your example also reminds me of Idiocracy the Mike Judge movie. Ill have to check that out too, I haven’t even heard of Don’t Look Up till now.
Don’t bother putting points in Swimming.
the swimming comments are so confusing everyone is giving different opinions and not explaining lol.
It’s kind of a meme from way back when the game was new. Swimming was a deeply polarising skill. The main benefit to the swimming skill was being able to stay underwater for minutes at a time, which sounds incredibly useful as a way to open up alternative entrances and more exploration. But… there were very few places you’d actually get the chance to use it.
thank you, I might have leveled swimming and just waited for a section where itd finally be useful lol. worst case scenario Ill find the alternate paths on a second playthrough
Just use the high framerate fix .dll, Kenties launcher (do not cap framerate in this or else it will cause pauses when you open your inventory, use an external fps limiter if needed), enhanced OpenGL or DX11 renderer and the music/maps fix. Do not use GMDX/Revision or any other mod for a first playthrough, you should also level up swimming.
Concise and to the point, much appreciated! Many players seem to share that sentiment of playing the vanilla game first. Again drawing comparisons to skyrim as i did in another comment, skyrim was borderline unplayable without mods for me, I wanted to see whete the community lies on this title specifically before I even try it.
When you’re done with your first playthrough, get Revision and The Nameless Mod.
I believe Revision is available on steam but if not, both are on ModDB.
Also, don’t be afraid to explore, learn your play style (it’s meant to be stealth heavy but run-and-gun is also an option), and don’t sink all your skill points into swimming lmao.
The tutorial (“training” option in the main menu) is pretty fun and will get you familiarized with all your basics and tips pretty nicely.
I may have strong nostalgia glasses on but the mechanics still hold up really well and it’s still one of my favorites of all time. I have it on at least 3 platforms and regularly gift it to friends/family when it’s on sale.
I’ve played some of the 4th game but it’s not the same feel really, more akin to Watchdogs ime. The second game got review bombed on release but seems like a decent game from what I’ve heard from other fans. I have it but haven’t played it yet, probably should lol.
Thanks for reading my text wall 😅 /gen
it’s meant to be stealth heavy but run-and-gun is also an option
Not OP but I generally start missions in stealth mode and end in shoot everything that moves mode.
Is that because you failed the stealth checks or simply out of frustration lol? Is the stealth more rewarding like a puzzle? does it give any benefits at all? like for example some games will give lore dumps when hiding from basic enemies. I’m a huge fan of when games use background conversations as exposition.
failed the stealth checks
Generally this. Usually doesn’t matter which game. Has happened in Skyrim, Cyberpunk, Sniper Elite etc.
This is honestly why I enjoyed the first 2 payday games. the moment things went south my character build was no stealth all damage.
I’m asking for everyone’s ted talk on the game, this was more than reasonable lengthwise.
I usually skip tuts so again this was very helpful. not sure what Is meant by the swimming comment but I’m guessing that’s an inside joke Ill understand later. my play style Is usually exploration and movement based. I’m always looking for nooks and crannies for bits of lore or resupplies. from what you said I might have to put in multiple play-through to really get the full experience, as well as trying your modding suggestions.
there is definitely something to be said about nostalgia goggles but to be honest going back and playing the games from my childhood (and older titles like this) there’s just something missing from modern gaming that makes it feel mildly soulless. my next game on my backlog is Thief, and I just recently replayed the original Half-Life so All aboard the nostalgia train. o7
I appreciate your input on the more recent titles. Im even more skeptical now since a fan such as yourself hasn’t felt the urge to continue the series the game probably stands on its own, and any addition may hinder or sour the original experience.
Played through Deus Ex earlier this year with the Lay D Denton (female protag) mod. It’s amazingly integrated & gave such a fun spin on the existing game
Sweet, might have to give that a spin. Is it a total story rework or just a replaces the MC? with stat changes and skills etc?
Model replacement, voice acting update (uses line stitching for existing npc voices - I didn’t notice anything that drew me out of it), and a fully voiced protagonist. She does a great job! Voice Showcase
Neat! That game has been on my wishlist for a long time, i still keep passing on it whenever it’s on sale…one day i’ll actually pull the trigger. It’s nice reading all these replies about various mods and things keeping the game ‘current’!
Im glad im not the only one getting value from this, I hope others that haven’t given the game a shot pop in and ask questions I haven’t considered or just appreciate the fact that everyone has been super helpful. it speaks to the Deus Ex community as a whole. I was half expecting comments like “why do you need our input? just play the game.” , instead “Neat!” Indeed.
Oh man. I remember playing this game as a kid. It was awesome. I should.play it again.
Definitely get GMDX. They just released a new version a couple months ago. Lots of gameplay tweaks and a serious overhaul of textures. Definitely makes it worth playing.
awesome! looking for stuff just like this. out of curiosity Will reading the game play tweaks prior to playing spoil anything? also are there any major changes from the original works or is it purely aesthetic/QOL? Im worried im going to have a skyrim situation again where modders are just adding/changing things that do not fall within those categories.
Shouldn’t spoil anything and if you go with the defaults you’ll get pretty much the stock story just with better graphics and QOL tweaks. It’s been a couple years since I last played it but was getting ready to do another run through with the newest version.
Im getting conflicting info on this, another user is telling me that GMDX changes too much. Probably just going to have to read the changes for each suggested mod. Im just worried im going to read something that might otherwise have been a very interesting moment within gameplay.
Yeah. Don’t do it, man 🤣 ZeroRando set to the “first time playthrough” QOL stuff sounds like it’ll do you fine.
Don’t try to modernize it to much, just accept it’s a product of its time and get it to run properly on your system. It’s amazing. You’ll get used to the jank and you’ll love it.
Im thinking I might only mod if I run into issues. From what everyone is telling me, the game is SOLID with issues like you said that are “a product of its time” i think I can handle that.
