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  • That would be an option. Abandon your citizenship and the right to ever obtain it again and youre free to go.
    On the other hand, you benefitted from the country until that point and abandoning it when it needs you the most seems kind of unfair. Countries dont revoke your citizenship when they dont need you anymore, like for criminals or homeless people, it goes both ways. I dont think there is an obvious solution, in a war everyone loses.



  • What are you basing the statement that their survival doesnt matter on? They are soldiers that are inevitably needed in a war, but the countries survival depends on their success in the war which is kind of equivalent to the survival of as many of them as possible.
    To me it seems Ukraine can choose between not having enough troops and inevitably losing the war and their country, or sending in conscripts (of which a certain percentage will die) and having a chance of fighting back.
    It does seem cruel that some are forced to die (or risk dying) for the survival of the masses, but would it be better if all citizens were forced equally, women and children included? What would be the alternative? Relying on volunteers alone doesnt seem enough, so should they abandon their country?


  • If the country is worth dying for, people will volunteer.

    While I agree that conscription is generally not good and shouldnt be necessary, this statement is definitely not true. Humans usually care for their lives and the responsibility for their families first.
    Imagine a situation in which you live in a perfect utopia of a country, but every year, one citizen has to be sacrificed. Would you volunteer immediately? Probably not. Given the choice not to die, most people would take it. Would you agree to 1 person out of X million being picked randomly and accepting it if youre chosen? I think thats more likely. It seems fair and your chances of being chosen are very small because of the number of people involved.


  • Why are you trying to make this about russia when its not relevant for the question? Just because there is someone worse doesnt excuse the lesser evil. And it certainly should not stop us from viewing them objectively/critically.
    When someone beats their kid you wouldnt say “but they got raped by their parents thats much worse”.
    Btw Im not saying Ukraine is to blame here, I havent done research into this particular topic, just saying we shouldnt dismiss info just because theres an aggressor doing worse shit.


  • What the actual fuck. I am kind of unsure if this is a ragebait but I will take it nonetheless.
    You can judge people for thousands of ways in which they are egotistic or not charitable. Not adopting would come just about last. I hope the person you talked to donates every cent above the bare minimum they need to survive, does not drive a car, has adopted at least 10 children and works for a charity.
    Otherwise they have absolutely no right to judge people for not going through the absolutely awful adoption process and sacrificing a major part of their life for kids that potentially require much more attention and patience than most.
    Most people arent even emotionally ready to raise their own children and would absolutely fail with adopted children.
    Not to mention blood relation is a very special bond and you cant judge anyone for seeking that.


  • From Europe here. This is my opinion but Im about 90% convonced this is how its gonna go down: The US is in the midst of a fascist takeover which will either lead to a revolution and tens of million deaths or with the US implementing fascism in every other (western) country, taking over those that resist by military force. There wont be a world war as there is no possible opposition.
    Its gonna be the hardest century humanity has faced in a long time, and US citizens still have the opportunity to sacrifice themselves for a better future but I doubt it will happen, we are looking at Cyberpunk 2077 soon. Most of us will get the Nazi Germany citizenship experience for some years and then the alternative ending where Germany won, except that H*tler cared for a big part of his people (white Germans) while the current US government will let all but 0.1% live in poverty and slavery with extra steps.










  • Thank you for this question and for being interested in there topics. It is very important that people think about and discuss such matters.

    I love your example of Avatar, it is a very good one. I think, after watching Avatar a few times, the most important lesson there is not the fact that Aang came up with a way to defeat Ozai without killing him (so basically “theres always an other way”). It is kind of implied that it was a “better” way, but noone can really know for sure. Maybe killing him would have been better in the end. The real lesson, in my opinion, is that Aang kept thinking and brainstorming and wrecking his brain day and night trying to figure out whats right and whats wrong. He didnt simply accept the opinions others imposed on him, even though almost every person he respected had the same one. He needed to come up with an answer himself. I think if we keep thinking about our decisions and try to see things from different perspectives without blindly following narratives or popular opinions, thats worth a lot.

    To one of your many questions, which was basically “does the end justify the means?”, youre not going to get a definite answer because noone knows and noone can know. Some people might pretend to, but they dont. It might apply in some cases but wont in others. And even if it seems reasonable in a scenario, you never know the real outcome. As an example, if you had a time machine, should you go back and kill Hitler as a Baby? Sure, you would stop him from starting WW2, but you would commit an objectively horrible crime in that moment. Also, what if 5000 years later that leads to the world ending? You never know.

    All we can do is make as good a guess as we can about whether what we are doing is the right thing. If we keep thinking about our decisions and constantly update/re-evaluate our beliefs, we should be on the right path.