- cross-posted to:
- protonprivacy@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- protonprivacy@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/37218429
When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
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Is what he’s saying true? That the antitrust laws he’s referring to were started by trump?
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I was looking to use ProtonVPN but since that story, i would prefer an alternative.
What do you guys use for VPN (i think i saw Mullvad in the replies ?)
Mullvad
I thought they were wonderful. Until they got rid of port forwarding, which is the only reason why I was paying them: as a torrenting VPN.
If you don’t need that feature, Mullvad is still great…they take privacy/security seriously! That’s why they got rid of the feature I used haha.
They’ve also been put to the test and passed IMO:
https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/21/23692580/mullvad-vpn-raid-sweden-police
I use PIA VPN.
I really don’t understand this compulsion people have to publicly announce their political support.
Like, this guy could have just said nothing, literally just not do anything, and he’d be better off.
Me being too lazy and putting off switching to Proton has paid off!
People here need to read about how fascism in Germany and Italy were good for business but terrible for the workers. About how the moneyed interests played a role in the rise of fascism in both as a defense mechanism against unions and socialism.
Republicans haven’t stood for the little guy for at least….40 years?
what the fuck??? literally HOW did he reach that conclusion
Anyone got a email site that won’t shut down or turn fascist?He hasn’t turned fascist though
Support business policies of a group that removes oversight, accountability, responsibility, and makes it so he keeps more money.
What do US domestic politics have to do with a small Swiss company? Is there an indication that Proton would be sanctioned otherwise?
https://www.openbiz.io/blog/15-things-to-know-about-u-s-taxes-for-foreign-companies
- Foreign companies are generally subject to U.S. tax on U.S. source income. This includes income from selling goods or services in the United States, from owning or leasing property in the United States, and from investing in U.S. securities.
So yeah, doing business in the US, getting paid by US people, subjects them to some US regulations. Hence, they are affected by US domestic policy and politics.
This comment right here absolutely nails it.
The Republicans have installed a Supreme Court that guts antitrust at every step, and Andy gives them a pass. Anyone that’s that bloody oblivious of how the GOP have spent 25 years trying to remove consumer protections at every turn shouldn’t be managing a popsicle stand, let alone an email service so many rely on to be private.
What a redundant muffin.
Cancelled my years long subscription today. Any company that bows down to tRump should be avoided. Vote with your wallet.
I did the same! No more proton unlimited! It is better to use products from multiple companies instead of one.
Who did you switch to? I’m looking to leave proton too with all this.
Mullvad, Tuta, Bitwarden.
Have you used these 3 before (or currently)?
Tuta mail is garbage. Used it for over a year and the search was terrible event when using the exact text from the mail. They also deleted my account despite me actively using it.
Look for a different mail service.
I use Tuta, and while the search kinda sucks, it’s good enough, you just need to make sure you have all mail downloaded that’s being searched (last 30 days IIRC).
I picked them because they have similar privacy as Proton with lower prices and features I like (i.e. 3 domain names).
I’ve used bitwarden and mulvad for years. Recommend both without hesitation.
I’ve been using Tuta since 2016, on paid plan since 2019.
Outside a single longer outage early on I had nothing but good experience with their service. Granted, I only care about email and calendar (the only two products they have at the moment) but both work without any issues.
And honestly, I probably wouldn’t use a VPN from them unless it was included for no extra charge. I prefer to keep my services separated.
That’s my stance as well. Having to switch everything every time something goes wrong is too much of a pain.
I use that exact stack. Bitwarden for 3 years Mullvad and Tuta for one. Can’t speak to their ethics or anything I wouldn’t know. But the quality of service has been great for me at least
I heard they’re good and I have just recently created accounts for them.
for mail, posteo. For drive, calendar, contacts, passwords, I’m working on setting up nextcloud but it’s not ready yet. I still have a few months before I’m downgraded. for VPN, I’m still looking for alternatives.
More bandwidth for the rest of us!
The post was deleted and they are in cleanup mode. Best thing we can do is post this everywhere and demand a public apology and the firing of Andy Yen.
Otherwise end your subscriptions!
What is the Streisand effect?
Grrrreat… Can anyone please suggest an alternative? I’ve switched to Proton trying to de-Google…
I’ve been looking at fastmail and tuta
Thank you for the recs, will add them to the list! Maybe it’s time to go from one to many…
I switched to PurelyMail and haven’t had any problems. Just mail with no marketing or other bullshit
Excellent, the more options the better! Thank you!
Damnit, same thing here.
This is bewildering. What a shame.
I had minor gripes with some of their services but Proton has broadly been pretty great in my eyes.
Some CEOs baffle me. Surely, even if they are massive fans of one US political party over the other, they’d have the sense to keep it to themselves to prevent it becoming a thing that causes a fallout with existing/potential customers? But no. They’re too fucking narcissistic for that, and they think everyone wants to hear their opinions and follow them.
Most of the companies/ceos doing this over the past few weeks do know better. That’s why they didnt say anything earlier. The reason they would be publicly taking this stance now is that they either expect to be rewarded by the incoming administration, or they hope to avoid punitive retaliation.
Canceled my sub last night, ported everything to Tuta today. No issues this far.
Super disappointing, but is what it is and I’ll move on.
