I have to ask this. Is there a service where I could bring my own FQN like Notgoogle.com and then have them handle emails for me? But with a twist… I want notgoogle.com to send and receive emails via that outside entity, but I want to send the emails from a self hosted server that maybe has mailcow or similar and I want that same server to receive the emails from the outside company. Ideally the outside company is basically just a relay from my IP to the outside world and vise versa. The outside company would basically hold the emails until my server checked and downloaded them. any advice on this. Hopefully with a useful step by step guide from somewhere in the webs?
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- For incoming mail, on your server run a mail retrieval agent like fetchmail to fetch mail from the externally hosted mailbox into a maildir on your server.
- To serve that maildir to your clients, on your server run a mail delivery agent like the IMAP server Dovecot.
- To accept outgoing mail from your clients, on your server run something like Postfix with a
relayhostconfigured with the details of your externally hosted SMTP server.
There’s nothing unusual or tricky about any of this arrangement.
Okay! I see. I only need to have the IMAP and SMTP ports open to NGNIX and routed to the internal IP.
Email is the one thing I have stopped trying to do myself. It just has too many things that you absolutely need to keep updated. Have a look at Forward Email (https://forwardemail.net/en). They can hook up to pretty much any domain setup you already have, and do the heavy lifting for you.
Yeah same here. I just want to catch the emails as one would from Thunderbird but be able to share one account with my wife but without having to rely on keeping our emails on their server… That’s the current gmail problem, our emails are on there, they decide to train their AI or whatever with the emails and they just email you an opt out. I’m done with that. Worst is that you can’t quickly delete nor save and backup anything.
I would never handle email myself. I would instead use a provider, turn off all filters and set up a mail server locally that works via the provider.
That way I don’t have to convince my ISP to set up a PTR for me, handle DMARC or SPF. Or care if my IP is blacklisted.What’s the point of hosting a local server in this case, instead of just using a mail client?
maybe multiple mail clients are configured to connect to a local server in an office while that server is configured to outside world and also fetches each mail only once. changing of outisde world provider then does not make you reconfigure all mail clients, but only your central once.
I would say something similar if not exactly.
I’m just looking forward to de-googling my life before my kids are old enough to get Hooked on that shit themselves.
My basic idea is that maybe I can’t or shouldn’t host my own email server. But 15gig limits with constant nagging to pay up, so gmail is not the answer. That gets old quick. I want to just download the files into a central device that my wife and I have access to. But that has been thus far technically obfuscated. I’m not sending thousands of emails per day, just a family level of correspondence.
Ideally my wife and I would login thru our phones to send and receive emails from a common email space that only lives at home. The emails would be routed to the outside entity who would do the actual sending and receiving. I have some basic things that I’m starting to like…email aliases and having my own email domain.
I currently have my own domain on cloud flare but they don’t proxy email servers. So here I be. I want for example to use e-mail like this:
Basic form: notgoogle.com
Stacked not google.com
Alias:
One time use or specific use:
Karenwantsmyemail@notgoogle.com
I already tried serving my own server and all this was possible. But it was insecure in that you can easily go find my IP address and my real address. I don’t want that, don’t really mind if someone knows it, but I don’t want to be spearphished. And so that’s where my desires for a local server that not my wife and I can access and use like gmail but safely come from.
Rant: In general, oh God! Are we fucking retarded? I have a 2 TB disk, I got high speed internet… A rando in China can call my phone but somehow I can’t get a rando to send me email? There’s something wrong with that picture. Or maybe I should do exactly what I do with my phone number… Not use it at all unless it’s family. You can spoof phone numbers, voices and emails. Maybe I should setup a Lemmy instance instead and just use this as a form of communication. The only problems being that my computer sometimes goes down due to power failure or IP change or some other reason, and nobody else would want to use my server…like the kids school or the DMV etc. Anyhoo…
If you mainly want to “hide” your IP, you can’t. Look at the headers of any message. It’ll still show the original source IP, which will be yours.
For the rest of the time I’d recommend getting a spam filtering service. Mimecast, ProofPoint, Barracuda, etc.
Messages sent to you go to the filter, which then forwards the message over to your mail server. Outbound you configure your server to use the filter as a smart host. These filters will also buffer messages if your mail server is offline. So if the server is down, the filter holds on to messages and retries delivery later when your server is back up (within reason).
so, you want something like spamhero standard (in/out relay and spam filtering for one domain)?
(i don’t use them, just the first one i found. i had used similar years ago, but just have email hosted at two of our providers now instead).
hm, sounds like literally any regular webhosting service that also offers email (like every such service i know of) to me, then maybe used together with imap (or pop, if you wish), and if you want to connect servers with it to send mails, then “smarthost” or “sattelite system” should be the configuration you are looking for for your own MTA. to get received emails from that service most common is to use pop3 (still common because seemingly every service offers it for compatibility) but other protocols would be faster like immediate recieve using notify within imap, and there are other options too, but those depends on what that service offers like maybe sending your mails once received by them to your own server via smtp or by other protocols depending on what they implemented. i think there is no “twist” with that and -what i understand of what you want - is a quite common thing.
i for myself don’t want 3rd parties to be able to directly read my emails so i run my own mail server as tiny rented VMs from providers while my real emailserver is my homeserver that uses these VMs as “smarthost” and also pulls emails from there immediately. my mailclients are configured to connect to those VMs butbthat connection is relayed through VPN to my homeserver. thus i think my setup is a bit like what you want but i host everything by myself and i don’t use mailcow but it looks like i use the same software mailcow uses too. i guess you are mainly bound to what mailcow offers when limiting yourself to it ;-)
Big nope. It’s not a technical hurdle, it’s a viability problem. Just search on why you should never host your own SMTP service.
They are not requesting for info on running their own SMTP service that interacts with the greater internet.
Though even if they were, the difficulty is overstated. I’ve run my own for years.
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Yeah, and people ask about suicide on the Internet as well, but I would never help them.
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