• Optional@lemmy.world
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    First off, Signal hasn’t said anything, this is an accusation made at a conference in Kyiv. So - who knows, they’re behind, they don’t have billions to support an army, who knows.

    IF they have chosen to not help Ukraine where at all possible, that would be bad.

    All of that said, if I was running a modern army using an encrypted chat app, I’d fucking have all that shit in-house, wtf. It’s 2025. Ukraine already has a bunch of l337 h4X0rs. I’m sure they could slap something together in days and have it in the field in weeks.

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      not to mention the Signal protocol is open source so they could literally build something in days and ensure the same encryption

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        Maintaining and testing such an app has costs and risks. They may think it’s more secure that signal does this. It is also harder to attack all of signal.

        They are also significantly resource constrained, everything they have goes towards defence. The effort building the app could be deployed on developing weapon systems they can’t buy.

        Your right nations should have their own independent systems for secure communications for military, politicians and civil service.

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      I’m sure they could slap something together in days and have it in the field in weeks.

      We make a lot of assumptions about how other people live, and what they have available.

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    Did it ever respond to those “requests”? What would Signal have anyway other than phone number to login association.

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      What’s the difference in this context? Can’t their enemies send dodgy links and QR codes on Matrix?

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        they can send anything, but if they run their own matrix on their own servers then the data stays in house… important for govt or military things

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    Ok, they had choice to use Jami, app independent of anyone, but they chose centralization…

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      The article is about Signal providing info on what the Russians are doing on the app and not Ukraine using it themselves

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      Did they really? I assume they would do more research than me when choosing tech, but my initial reaction is “the fuck is a Jami?”. Is this a big app in recent years?

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        It’s a messenger backed by the GNU foundation. The last time I tried it it didn’t reliably deliver messages on Android.

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        And you’re proud of that? Well, I’m glad someone else has found out about serverless, independent messenger.

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          Not sure how you read pride into this at all, the implication is that if they don’t know about it it’s not a choice, while at the same time acknowledging that perhaps I’m just out of the loop.

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      Hope you don’t use (almost) any other messaging app either. If a single unsubstantiated article is enough to make you stop using something, you should be using almost nothing anywhere.

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      There’s a whole ocean between ‘a single (biased) source claims Signal have stopped responding to requests for cybercrime assistance’ and ‘Signal is a pro-Kremlin app’.

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    Give it time. Before long you’ll see articles about how we need to ban encryption to help Ukraine fight Russia & Democrats will support it cause that is how clueless many of them are.