US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US “vassals.” He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.
This seems like an attempt to undermine NATO. The only time article 5 has been used was after 9/11.
By saying Europe had a choice and should have resisted, he lays the foundation for the US to not follow through on their NATO commitments.Edit: The commenter below is right, the article 5 was used for Afghanistan, not Iraq. My whole argument is thus invalid
…what…?
Seriously: what the fuck? There was - at best - scant official support in Europe for the war, and public support was nearly nonexistent. The fuck is he on about.
Go home and fuck your loveseat, heterosectional.
They could have idk, introduced sanctions at least. They could have stopped military cooperation and threatened to form their own alliance. It was a deeply unjustified, dare i say criminal war that needed a more forceful response than Europe was able to come up with. I have no great love for the couch fucker but he’s correct here
So, is he seriously telling other countries not to just blindly go along with whatever the US tells them to do, but instead to resist and stand up for themselves?
And Trump is ok with this messaging? Hmmm.
It’s online with divisive rhetoric meant to drive US isolationism
After the US is isolated, what’s next?
I remember when Republicans renamed french fries to freedom fries because France opposed the Iraq War
europe did and you clowns renamed french fries to freedom fries like idiots…
Did what exactly?
I think that was a US WWII joke
Nope. When France didn’t join the invasion of Iraq, “Freedom Fries” was a thing.
It was truly stupid.
No, it was another international embarrassment of American stupidity.
No
respectfully i hope jd vance suffers permanent 24/7 diarrhea from all orifices
but think of the couches.
lets go with constipation. Permanent. constipation.
Still from all orifices though, right? That would finally shut him up
Yes, of course.
Respectfully.
Constant runny eyeliner.
His brain is freedom fried.
Shady Vance is now being told to do revisionist history. I’m excited to hear what he’s told to say next.
Why didn’t you stop me from hurting those people? This is all your fault!
Fucking eyelined moron
“It hurt me to harm those people”
“Look what you made me do!” - Every domestic abuser ever
… the Iraq War that the US started? What the fuck is he talking about?
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They are trying to paint all previous administrations as bad.
The one you started, and spread fake bullshit about WMDs to get European countries on board?
That war?
Fuck off you pudgy little fake working-class beard eyeliner cunt.
Vance saying Europe should’ve done more to stop his nation from going to war has a high levels of rapist blaming victim for their acts energy.
I was young back then so my memory of the details as i’ve experienced them are somewhat blurred, but there definitely was opposition. And that was met with statements along the lines of “if you’re not with us you’re against us/part of the problem”.
For a while a disturbing number of places in America were calling French fries “freedom fries” because France didn’t want to invade Afghanistan with us. From my recollection, most of Europe was against it and the UK was the biggest backer of the invasion. I was in high school at the time so I could be wrong.
Close. French fries were renamed because France refused to join the Iraq war, stating they looked at the intelligence and didn’t see evidence of WMDs. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said that this was “Old Europe” talking and that the Eastern European countries were more willing to join the war.
We had a lot of anti war protests here in the UK, not that it made any difference.
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I remember the lead up. There was a lot of action against it. But the US was clamoring really fucking hard for the war since the neo-cons wanted to invade Iraq well before 9/11.
Fuck you, JD.
So when the US starts a war with Canada and Denmark to avoid free elections in 2 years, Europe should step in and JD will make sure the US backs down?
OK.
