LG licenses tech for interpreting TV users’ feelings and convictions.
  • TON618@lemmy.worldEnglish
    137·
    2 months ago

    Leveraging people’s property to trash their privacy and serve them ads is really a good way to get me to avoid an entire brand for everything.

    • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
      222·
      2 months ago

      I agree, but with TVs (or large displays" we’re at the point where there are no good options. Commercial displays are over engineered for the home and lag in technology Vs home TVs. So they’re not an option. Lg and Samsung are the display technology leaders, but their TVs are full of crap— so no. Monitors don’t go large enough for the living room.

      Guess I’m stuck with what I have.

      • sinceasdf@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 months ago

        Why would you ever accept this anti consumer bullshit for a slightly better screen? It might not even take a year before the current cutting edge not “the best” anymore with how fast tech cycles. I would absolutely go out of my way to get a device I can deprive of an Internet connection and still use.

      • Bwilder@lemmy.ca
        English
        4·
        2 months ago

        Huh, I’ve heard that commercial displays are the way to go. What do you mean when you say they are over engineered?

        • Not a replicant@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 months ago

          They’re designed and built to run 16/7 or similar. If you have TV on 16 hours a day, a commercial display is worth considering.

          No, I’m not joking - I’ve seen folk who turn it on at sunrise, and off at bedtime.

        • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          They’re industrial boxes with a screen. Not aesthetically what I want in my living room. The displays are chosen for their longevity, not their picture quality. They’re often actively cooled with fans, so adding a noise level to their operation.

        • OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          You can get them now days up to 360hz refresh rate. Gaming projectors and projectors in general have came a long way from the faded blurry shit they were 10 to 15 plus years ago.

  • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
    61·
    3 months ago

    I recently bought an LG TV. I didn’t connect it to the Internet, I just use it with my Chromecast or Switch. Works great, no ads, no AI BS.

    • shyguyblue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      3 months ago

      This is the way to do it

      I blocked my lg from the Wi-Fi after i got a “Kobe Bryant memorial” ad, while playing on my switch… TF?!

      • 5in1k@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Do you think he thought avoiding all that traffic was worth it as he plummeted?

        • QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          Okay so fuck rich people destroying the planet with private air travel—however, he was still statistically more likely to die from driving that day. And so was his daughter and the other innocent kids on that flight

    • aubertlone@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      I’ve heard this line many times from so many people.

      So basically just Nintendo and google profit off your personal information? And doesn’t Chromecast serve ads? In the background, but still?

      I fully support your decision to not connect your LG TV to the internet. I do the same thing but it’s often just for convenience. I get better performance from my devices rather than from the TV itself for whatever application.

      Just was thinking about that recently is all.

  • obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    54·
    3 months ago

    If they ever make this a standard feature in all TVs and make it where I can’t just disconnect it from the internet, I will be using old TVs for the rest of my life.

    My TV is there to display a visual output. It does not and should not do anything else.

    • Stovetop@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      3 months ago

      Luckily digital signboards will always be an option to replace TVs with if the situation becomes truly dire. The sorts of no-frills displays corporations buy to display whatever media they want in store.

      Might not come with sound, but you can pick up a cheap sound bar and it will still be better than whatever cheap speakers commercial TVs try to cram in there.

      • chaosCruiser@futurology.todayEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        As long as my 1080p plasma tv works, there’s no need to upgrade. Going 4K would also mean I would have to upgrade my HTPC hardware, because that old APU probably can’t handle resolutions like that.

        In the meantime though, I’ll just keep on watching online videos in my living room without ads or interruptions. It’s been great even though all of this hardware is cheap and ancient.

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
    44·
    2 months ago

    Continue to never buy LG products again?

    Gotcha. The advertising works, i guess…maybe not how they wanted to, though lol

    • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      2 months ago

      Oh, they do have products without all that shit. They offer large screen monitors that are basically their TVs without the “smart” part.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        i wager it has all the TV stuff gutted out, including the tuner… Which admittedly is only a problem if you use OTA and not cable.

        • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          2 months ago

          They have a bunch of display ports and HDMIs. You can buy the tuner you need (SAT, OTA, cable, other streamer), or use a PC&Linux and watch YT add-free.

  • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
    31·
    3 months ago

    I’m about to live in a camper full of paper books. I hate everything tech has done in the last twenty years.

    • Basic Glitch@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      I would make an inappropriate Ted Kaczynski joke if I didn’t know everything we do is being constantly monitored at all times by a bunch of turds with zero sense of humor.

  • kipo@lemm.eeEnglish
    28·
    2 months ago

    Can we please ban electronic advertising already? And billboards? Society would be better off without them.

    • moopet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      65·
      2 months ago

      If we ban people from “earning” over a certain amount, they’ll get round it through “gifts” or exchange in-kind or something, right? Same with ads. If we ban them, then product placement with plausible deniability will be rife, paid through essentially money-laundering methods, worse than it is now.

  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    26·
    2 months ago

    This tech has been in TVs easily for the past ten years.

    Did you know this stuff is in most modern cars, too? Fuck. EVERYTHING listens to you now.

    I hate to use this phrase, but, back in my day, we used to call this SPYWARE and it was treated as a virus - it was highly unacceptable by people.

  • filister@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    3 months ago

    Enshittification in progress. Sadly their OLED TVs are amazing, if not for the intrusive ads. It is really crap what all those companies are doing shoving ads our throats.

    I am trying to block everything using ad blockers, DNS filtering, Pi hole, etc.

    • expr@programming.devEnglish
      213·
      3 months ago

      I just… don’t connect the TV to the internet. Never had an issue with anything like that.

      • SwizzleStick@lemmy.zipEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        This is the best way, really. Generally, you have much more control over what you plug into it.

        A display shouldn’t have anything even approaching what can be called an ‘OS’ on it. Yet here we are.

    • SwizzleStick@lemmy.zipEnglish
      9·
      2 months ago

      Sometimes even that’s not enough. I’ve had some questionable kit before that would just ignore the DNS settings fed to it if it thought they were no good, and fall back to something else preconfigured.

      pfSense is a wonderful tool for situations like that. Anything intended for local use only here just doesn’t get outside at all. Handy for stuff like a fire stick that only needs to be calling up a local media library.

      It can also mangle any DNS requests going out to a different server and redirect them to itself instead. You could do this without it with iptables/nftables on a generic Linux box, but pfSense makes it much friendlier.

      There are other packages that can do the same, but physically all you need is one piece of hardware as a bouncer that manages connections between inside/outside.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        what can it do if the TV uses DoH, DoT, or something else similar? I expect that it can do nothing. unless the TV is on a separate vlan with very strictly only access to internal services

        • SwizzleStick@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          2 months ago

          At that point I would expect control of it, or at least for it to respect the configuration it is given. If neither are true, then it just doesn’t go online at all. If that’s part of the main function, then I find an alternative or live without it.

          Nothing on the inside should be sending anything to the outside that can’t be inspected before it leaves, with the exception of stuff that is directly driven by a human (guests browsing, etc).

  • 74 183.84@lemm.eeEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    Holy shit there were so many ads in that article that I just stopped reading. It sucks LG is going down this route. They make really nice displays but now I dont ever want to buy an LG tv if its spying on me to serve me these ‘better’ ads. Fuck advertising. Its turned into a complete monster

    • moopet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      It’s just the addition of “AI”. We’ve been doing the same thing for a long time. I used to work for an advertising data company over a decade ago, and they filtered all the ads for one of the big channels’ streaming services in exactly the same way just with regular algorithms rather than AI. It’s what would make ads for men’s razors appear in the middle of a soap opera at 11PM because it knew the user was a man getting home from the pub.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      Sounds like you need an ad blocker. I didn’t see any ads on the article except text links that were relevant to the story, which arguably aren’t ads.

  • eodur@lemmy.worldEnglish
    211·
    2 months ago

    I was describing this to my partner and she thought i said “LGBT”. Yes. The LGBTQ community created this technology and weaponized it. Next on Fox News.