or as I see in the case of GW2, the game has always been “woke”, but a handful of players manage to not run into any of the LGBT NPCs for hundreds of hours, then freak out when they do 😅
What do they mean by that? Is it a complaint about limited character customization or is it something as stupid as the character model with breasts doesn’t forcibly make you a woman and vice versa?
Edit: Based on other comments I’ll assume that it’s the second one.
I will say I kind of get annoyed at this. Not really on principle because I am all for inclusivity but on some games it’s legitimately hard to tell which one I’m picking and I don’t personally want my character to be trans (male voice, female body) in most games. In Avowed the character selection screen has your character in clothing that kind of obscures the body shape and I was like “are there boobs on this one? I can’t actually tell.” I’m apparently bad enough at this where I usually have to use the clothing off button if there is one to conclusively tell the difference. Helldivers 2’s “Brawny” and “Lean” are pretty good but those characters are in heavy armor and either one could plausibly be either biological sex. Baldurs Gate 3 uses the terms “masc” and “femme” which is less confusing but that game also lets you do any combo of muscles, voice, titties, and genetalia you want, which kind of eliminates the whole confusion in the first place since it’s all customizable. I totally get not wanting to label things but I am dumb and just want to know what I’m picking.
If you can’t tell does it really matter if you accidentally use voice 1 with body type 2? (I don’t really see why it would but I realize that my experience is likely quite different)
As an enby I personally do prefer the body type being labelled by a number or letter rather than a gender when I try to make a character I can identify with. My favourite is to have a body with sliders for body shape options but that isn’t viable for a lot of games and does make it difficult to make good looking characters.
Also in Baldur’s Gate 3 the body types are labeled 1 and 2 (+3 and 4 for those with strong/not strong variants) It’s only the disguise menu (and I believe the game files) that call it masc/femme.
Well like I don’t want to get surprised if in the game I take my armor or clothes off and there are boobs there, especially in games where there’s not an option to change later
Like pretty much any game made before like 2020? It is only pretty recently that any games added the option to change that, and some games still don’t have the option.
My issue is that bodies are much more diverse than “male/female”. The most common form of sex confirmation surgery (IIRC) is cis men having breast tissue removed. (Assuming clothing isn’t baggy and hiding them) if you can’t tell the difference then there isn’t a big enough difference for you to care, and both of them cover some of both birth gender’s typical body forms.
Basically, male/female isn’t accurate and can be an issue with some players. A/B isn’t helpful but at least isn’t problematic.
Oh yeah, you have a good point. For example, unlike games like bg3 and cyberpunk (to some extent), some games use “body type” but your character is still recognized as either male or female depending on which you choose, so there’s no point in NOT using “male or female”.
My annoyance with the Oblivion remaster is more that, from what I’ve read, this “body type A/B” change does not make a material difference inside the game, as NPCs still refer to your character as male/female. As a trans person my opinion is, either meaningfully rework how gender is handled in the game or just leave it alone, players know what to expect when playing an older game. This UI-level change actually just muddles player expectations.
I’ll admit to being someone who dislikes most Larian games (DoS, BG3). I’ve written reviews from the perspective of a casual gamer who finds overly complicated or mechanically overwhelming games to simply be too much. You say those things here and you get destroying by the hivemind, but it’s fair for someone to say “I didn’t like this game for the following reasons.” Not all players are looking for the same thing.
I like to leave compliments about the games as well, because there are some great storytellers or unique things about games that should be celebrated even if you didn’t like the final product.
hah I ran into this with a tactical RPG. I even got a comment along the lines that I should change my review “because the game is great, I just can’t appreciate it”. I admit this was the first (and probably last) tactical RPG I’ve tried, but still my experiences were valid impressions as a newcomer of the genre 🤷
You always have the hardcore players who make some obscure point the heart of every discussion. “This game is trash! They nerfed magic flummox attacks from +6 to +5! Who is the idiot who makes these decisions!? This is going to kill the game.”
It’s either a completely truthful breakdown about what makes the game not worth it, or a wackadoodle comment about the dumbest thing possible.
At 4,500 hours, I would say the majority would be “it used to be great until the devs did X”
The joke ones with thousand of hours are just “Eh, not that fun”
Not 4500 hours but I made sure to leave one of those about the sudden block of Linux players in GTA Online.
“game went woke”
or as I see in the case of GW2, the game has always been “woke”, but a handful of players manage to not run into any of the LGBT NPCs for hundreds of hours, then freak out when they do 😅
About as stupid as “toxic players”
I’ve read so many negative reviews that only say “bodytype A and B” that I’m running out of steam points to gift them clown awards.
Edit: Thanks for letting me know I shouldn’t give those awards, since it’s more of a reward for them. I’ll stop.
What do they mean by that? Is it a complaint about limited character customization or is it something as stupid as the character model with breasts doesn’t forcibly make you a woman and vice versa? Edit: Based on other comments I’ll assume that it’s the second one.
sorry to say, but by awarding them, you’re part of the problem by rewarding bad behaviour :|
(I hate the award system, it made the troll reviews problem so much worse)
I will say I kind of get annoyed at this. Not really on principle because I am all for inclusivity but on some games it’s legitimately hard to tell which one I’m picking and I don’t personally want my character to be trans (male voice, female body) in most games. In Avowed the character selection screen has your character in clothing that kind of obscures the body shape and I was like “are there boobs on this one? I can’t actually tell.” I’m apparently bad enough at this where I usually have to use the clothing off button if there is one to conclusively tell the difference. Helldivers 2’s “Brawny” and “Lean” are pretty good but those characters are in heavy armor and either one could plausibly be either biological sex. Baldurs Gate 3 uses the terms “masc” and “femme” which is less confusing but that game also lets you do any combo of muscles, voice, titties, and genetalia you want, which kind of eliminates the whole confusion in the first place since it’s all customizable. I totally get not wanting to label things but I am dumb and just want to know what I’m picking.
If you can’t tell does it really matter if you accidentally use voice 1 with body type 2? (I don’t really see why it would but I realize that my experience is likely quite different)
As an enby I personally do prefer the body type being labelled by a number or letter rather than a gender when I try to make a character I can identify with. My favourite is to have a body with sliders for body shape options but that isn’t viable for a lot of games and does make it difficult to make good looking characters.
Also in Baldur’s Gate 3 the body types are labeled 1 and 2 (+3 and 4 for those with strong/not strong variants) It’s only the disguise menu (and I believe the game files) that call it masc/femme.
Well like I don’t want to get surprised if in the game I take my armor or clothes off and there are boobs there, especially in games where there’s not an option to change later
I’ve never actually played a game that didn’t have the option. I suppose that’s fair then.
Like pretty much any game made before like 2020? It is only pretty recently that any games added the option to change that, and some games still don’t have the option.
My issue is that bodies are much more diverse than “male/female”. The most common form of sex confirmation surgery (IIRC) is cis men having breast tissue removed. (Assuming clothing isn’t baggy and hiding them) if you can’t tell the difference then there isn’t a big enough difference for you to care, and both of them cover some of both birth gender’s typical body forms.
Basically, male/female isn’t accurate and can be an issue with some players. A/B isn’t helpful but at least isn’t problematic.
Oh yeah, you have a good point. For example, unlike games like bg3 and cyberpunk (to some extent), some games use “body type” but your character is still recognized as either male or female depending on which you choose, so there’s no point in NOT using “male or female”.
My annoyance with the Oblivion remaster is more that, from what I’ve read, this “body type A/B” change does not make a material difference inside the game, as NPCs still refer to your character as male/female. As a trans person my opinion is, either meaningfully rework how gender is handled in the game or just leave it alone, players know what to expect when playing an older game. This UI-level change actually just muddles player expectations.
That’s just lazy tbh. Kind of the worst of both worlds.
Giving clown awards gives them Steam points. It encourages people to leave those type of shitty comments on purpose.
I’ll admit to being someone who dislikes most Larian games (DoS, BG3). I’ve written reviews from the perspective of a casual gamer who finds overly complicated or mechanically overwhelming games to simply be too much. You say those things here and you get destroying by the hivemind, but it’s fair for someone to say “I didn’t like this game for the following reasons.” Not all players are looking for the same thing.
I like to leave compliments about the games as well, because there are some great storytellers or unique things about games that should be celebrated even if you didn’t like the final product.
hah I ran into this with a tactical RPG. I even got a comment along the lines that I should change my review “because the game is great, I just can’t appreciate it”. I admit this was the first (and probably last) tactical RPG I’ve tried, but still my experiences were valid impressions as a newcomer of the genre 🤷
You always have the hardcore players who make some obscure point the heart of every discussion. “This game is trash! They nerfed magic flummox attacks from +6 to +5! Who is the idiot who makes these decisions!? This is going to kill the game.”
2/5 just drove past