Nah, it is the other way around. Historians would say those facts, and Hollywood and possibly general media would be the ones saying “sexy”.
Why did they use a pipe instead of the letter I?
| Don’t like it.
|’m glad |’m not the only one annoyed by that.
Because you would start talking about it
Yeah one of the fist ways I learned to create engagement was to fake typos / make simple grammer mistakes.
I didn’t realize that was supposed to be an I, | thought it was being used like asterisks to indicate action.
that’s what I think it’s supposed to be, but then the middle one is missing the | so who knows
It’s not meant to be an I, it’s meant to be an action. They’re not writing “I commanded an army”, they’re writing “commanded an army”.
No, it was not a good choice. But that’s what they were probably doing.
Then it would’ve been “against her brother” though, not “against my brother”
The historians had to lay that pipe somewhere
Honestly, my brain just didn’t even process it as an I. I just looked over it and started the sentences without them.
Anyway, why the fuck did they do that?
It’s because of historians you those things about Cleopatra
Stable and prosperous? She started with a civil war and ended by being conquered by Rome. The bit in the middle wasn’t stable either.
Can you give a single example of an ancient historian describing her as sexy? All the sources I’ve seen focus on her skills and realpolitik rather than her beauty.
Was it historians who were saying Cleopatra was sexy or filmmakers?
3 Antony, on the contrary, like Heracles in paintings where Omphalé is seen taking away his club and stripping off his lion’s skin, was often disarmed by Cleopatra, subdued by her spells, 957and persuaded to p339 drop from his hands great undertakings and necessary campaigns, only to roam about and play with her on the sea-shores by Canopus and Taphosiris. 4 And at last, like Paris, he ran away from the battle and sank upon her bosom; although, more truly stated, Paris ran away to Helen’s chamber after he had been defeated; but Antony ran away in chase of Cleopatra, and thereby threw away the victory.
Plutarch was a bit of both, but that tendency has definitely existed longer than movies.
Plutarch was a bit of a filmmaker?
He was the 200 ce version of one, anyway.
Nothing to me says ‘sexy’ quite like your grandad and your great-grandad being the same guy, or your (great * 5)-grandmother / grandfather being one man and woman, when most people have that responsibility spread between 64 people.
Close family. Must have made Christmas easy - having the in-laws round isn’t so bad when they’re your own blood relatives too.
Ah yes the “family wreath”
Must have made Christmas easy
Quite difficult at the time, actually.
Small domino: Greek bloodline fuckery.
Middle Domino: Hollywood.
Big domino: Incest porn.
No Cleopatra VI?
Damn how the hell did Berenice sneak in there?
Bere nicely.
See it relative; sexy if the other world leaders all did the same.
Incest is best!
Why are there pipes (“|”) in the text? It’s throwing me
my take is that they’re trying to do the “>text” to indicate that is an action rather than words, but it formatted to a quote box
>this is what was meant
this is what happened
that’s my guess tho idk
I think the quotation block only ever appears in the beginning of a line.
so SPOKE command gets the output from CLEOPATRA:
It’s the letter “i” but double capitalized.
|'m guessing it’s to spur engagement.
And, we fell for |t.
I do find it hilarious that we associate sexiness with Cleopatra because of an intensive smear campaign.
we will ruin your reputation by making you the greatest slay queen in human history…
Fr lol she’s like a step down from the Greek and Roman goddesses in her reputation, if anything their attempt to smear her put her on a pedestal.
it’s funny when one culture misogyny makes their insults fail.
She probably was legitimately attractive by Roman cultural norms and almost certainly leveraged that when dealing with Rome. The smear campaign was more playing that aspect up while downplaying the fact she was a genuine once-in-a-generation genius than making up things about how sexy she was.
What can I say, competence is sexy, excellence even moreso
But she really, really wasn’t. And she wasn’t even Egyptian, she was Macedonia Greek (and it shows).
Don’t historians say she probably wasn’t sexy? Just super bold which attracted powerful men, who hasn’t seen much of that back then.
She was a powerful personality. All the records indicate that she was of seemingly above average beauty standards, but nothing earth shattering.
Instead, it is claimed that her strength of personality is what attracted the powerful men in her life to her.
She probably like a lot of celebrities who are average looking but over produce to look way hotter.
She had access to creams, ointments and fragrances and good sleep. She also kept ugly ass lady servants to keep the contrast in her favor.
True. She was more seductive and alluring than plain ol sexy (according to my readings).
Yeah, it is the exact opposite of what OP claims. Historians are basically the only ones constantly demystifying her, while her legend as a sexy femme fatale lives on in the general public mind (thanks pretty much exclusively to Hollywood, because let’s face it, noone would know she existed without them).
