I can eat sushi, pizza, samosas, kebab (kabobs, döner or shawarmas depending on your frame of reference), gyoza/pot stickers/tortellone/pasteczki (or whatever), noodles/ramen/spaghetti, knödeln/kroppkakor and so on and so on. Leaving lots of cultures unsaid.
I can enjoy music, cringy cultural movies (animated and not), fun cirque sessions (even without animals being endangered), go to festivals for various cultures, enjoin then in our cultures of scouting, mountaineering, hiking and share my love of enjoying nature.
I can drive electric cars, communicate on Internet forums, keep in touch with new friends as well as loved ones across the world.
I would be in a much poorer world without you all.
Unfortunately for you, and all of us, there is an increasing tranche of poor people who are directly suffering because of immigration.
We ignore these people at our peril because they will vote for the Trumpists if nobody else is representing their interests.
The middle classes enjoyed the benefits of cheap labour, in particular, but those who had their pay and conditions destroyed are not going to vote to be turkeys at somebody else’s christmas party.
The billionaires have you convinced. Congratulations. Now only billionaires can benefit from cheap labour. I wonder how that happened? What kind of forces would possibly make it so that only the rich would benefit? Must be the immigrants, right?
These replies are silly.
It is you all who will continually wonder why the world isn’t working out the way you want it to and the way your ideology told you it should, and I am happy to agree to disagree, so block it is from here on out.
Your failure to deal with the reality poor, former working class people face has and will lead to the rise of the far right. Well done. Continue being right.
No, just no. You’re missing the point. Poor people are poor people, some are immigrants, some are not.
Anything that benefits poor immigrants will also benefit poor citizens. Anything that enriches white nationals, will enrich the rich immigrants that can become nationals just paying money anyways.
It is your boss taking away your job and giving it to the lowest bidder. It doesn’t matter who the bidder is. There will always be someone poorer than you, willing to work for less out of desperation. Sometimes they ar immigrants, sometimes they are white nationals.
Absolutely not. It is you that is missing the point and we will all be worse off because of it.Deal with reality.
Ah, my bad. Lol. I should have noticed the troll earlier.
Man you are fucking hella indoctrinated and spouting some of the most racist drivel I ever heard
There is not one thing indoctrinated of racist about my post. Your failure to accept reality suggests indoctrination.
Agreed 100%. Unfortunately the people who need to read this are not on Lemmy.
I’ve seen a few anti-immigrant comments pop up around here that have been upvoted and they’ve made me pretty sad.
This thread makes my immigrant ass happy though so thank y’all.
I immigrated to the US when I was too young to make that decision myself. Now I’m immigrating to another country. I literally don’t know what it’s like to not be an immigrant, and I’m tired of receiving nothing but hate for it. At least my new city is more welcoming.
Which country now?
Reminds me of this for some reason
That is pretty on the nose, but still an interesting perspective.
It might be on the nose, but we sure as hell have regressed in my short lifetime.
Some of those who burn crosses
Are the same that love kebab bossesFun fact for you: All döner is kebab, but not all kebab is döner. Because döner is just a type of kebab (grilled meat on a stick). Which also means that shawarma’s status as kebab is questionable, as it’s usually roasted or pan fried, as far as I know.
Pan fried shawarma is something Im still trying to get used to. The Lebanese Shawarma places in Ottawa all stack the chicken on a stick rotisserie and it is cooked exactly like the lamb or beef kebabs, they then slice thin portions off of it just the same.
It wasnt until I moved out west that I ever saw Shawarma done any other way, and everything out here has been disappointing by comparison.
Completely agree! The concept of Culinary Diplomacy is actually practiced by a few countries around the world and is often implemented in partnership with emigrants from those nations. South Korea did this with their “Kimchi Diplomacy” back in 2009 and it was considered very successful. It is one of the reasons Korean food became so popular here in the U.S. around then. Culinary Diplomacy
Never read about SK or China (just not familiar, not to say it doesn’t exist) doing this but Thailand went all in.
https://www.foodrepublic.com/1318428/how-gastrodiplomacy-brought-thai-food-world-stage/
I think the Chinese government also supported the Chinese restraunt industry similarly in the US
Just out of curiosity: what are pasteczki?
I think polish doughnuts
The problem is when immigrants from countries with lower labour standards and poorer conditions are effectively used as “scabs”, to suppress wage growth and unionization. And I fear the capitalists who benefit from this are pushing the “you just hate immigrants” narrative to protect it.
And how do you propose the solution?
I would say make sure people have a clear way of becoming legal immigrants. If they are legal, make sure the labor laws are enforced. So no paying under minimum wage, make sure the workplace is a safe place, etc.
Lobby the government to stop doing that. In the meantime, teach them their rights, how to unionize, help them with food security and finding a place to live, so that they aren’t in such a precarious position that makes exploitation so profitable.
I think a very important step is to start holding businesses responsible for employing undocumented migrants and immigrants. Stop punishing the employees and punish the ones breaking the law by employing them. They’d lobby so hard to make the path to citizenship easier.
Yeah but good luck holding a sign that says “Don’t shop here, they hire immigrants”.
That’s not my point. I’m saying that law enforcement is being targeted at the wrong people.
Seize the means of production?
Couldn’t agree more except one little nitpick. Pizza was invented in America.
Inspired by Italian Immigrants, Refined in the United States.
This should be the slogan of every pizza place lol.
Not in Canada. Unless they want to go out of business.
Not sure where you got that idea. Pizza was brought to America by Italian immigrants, but it has existed for long before that. Modern pizza is well known to have originated in Naples.
Hmmm, I’ve “known” that for a long time. I know pizza in Italy is not the same as pizza in America and is typically eaten with a fork and knife. Maybe that’s what I was thinking or maybe I’m confusing it with a different supposedly Italian food.
and is typically eaten with a fork and knife
Afaik that varies by region
You might be thinking of the classic spaghetti and tomato sauce with ground beef?
I believe that one originated with Italian-American immigrants
Could be. Really thought it was pizza. Gonna be hard to unlearn this.
But either way, Italian immigrants freakin’ rocked the American culinary world and I’m eternally grateful
America would be a boring ass country if it was just white America. I have been saying this
Fascism always promotes blandness and boredom. When the dust of chaos settles, that’s all that is left.
It wouldn’t even be white America. Europeans are all immigrants
Never forget, the rest of the world is on the internet too. As I am. Not American. ❤️
My apologies 😘
Thank you… uh… please leave those sharks alone…
I can enjoy homophobic attacks with threats of punishments for apostasy,
Even witnessing with my own eyes an acid attack in Clapham, London.
The cool part is, that’s just due to extremists, not immigrants. Planned parenthoods were bombed by white right assholes. Try better next time.
I fucking love the diversity of the United States. It enriches us all.
Diversity is everywhere, the US isn’t special (in any good way, at least).
I didn’t say it was. Thanks.
100% agree. The biggest overlooked benefit of immigrant culture is the mirror it offers us on our own practices and beliefs. When seeing what others do it gives us the chance to reaffirm that our actions are correct, or even more important, modify our actions for the better by adopting their view on something. We get to cherry pick the best parts of cultures around the world and discard bad practices that are perhaps “traditional” because we see our immigrants have a better approach. In the end of either we get the chance to be the best versions of ourselves with constant exposure to new ideas and ways of doing things.
The only reason there is to love American culture is the blending of different immigrant cultures.
