The US population is grouped together in one giant pool instead of spread out by state like Europe is grouped by individual country. We focus on national news that affects the large population, and stuff that happens on other states becsuse of the shared identity, while European countries don’t have the same kind of European Union shenanigans that affect all of Europe and mostly post about country level stuff. Communities in languages other than English also tend to be posted in separate communites further separating their discussions from the general purpose communities.
We are also louder, which also contributes, but that is not as big of a deal as the sheer numbers.
plus, you know, inheritors of the British empire - practically an unbroken chain of hegemonic anglophones who refuse to learn another language
While a huge portion of the population chooses not to become fluent in a language, because nearly everything within hundreds of miles of where they live uses the same language by default, we still provide opportunities to learn languages and in some areas people are commonly bilingual.
It can be hard to maintain a language without frequent exposure. I had some classes in Spanish and French, but without a large population that speaks either language in my area I just forgot it over time. Moved tons place where we do have a lot of people who speak Spanish and English, but since I’m not part of their community my exposure is limited to the occasional festival or signage as nobody needs me to impose my attempt to learn their language on them.
It isn’t all about refusal, it is mostly lack of exposure.
Yeah, the geography certainly plays a role - much like it does for Britain having ~30 miles of ocean between it and the rest of Europe.
But the broad trend in the States has been a narrowing of languages. Like, a century ago there was national distribution for newspapers printed in German. Those started disappearing during WW1 and were completely gone by the end of WW2. And, of course, that is dwarfed by the number of First Nations languages that have been driven to the edge extinction, if not outright extinguished already.
I think if Lemmy wants to have less of a US bent to topics and perspectives, then they’ll have to follow ich_iel’s example and stubbornly commit to a language that isn’t english. The way how the internet collapses geography, conversation trends toward orbiting the densest population of monoglots.
It is a self reinforcing system, and the same reason that English has become so widespread worldwide.
Increased communication across wider areas promote common languages to be more accessible to more people, so in the case of the US this means each time people communicate it is more likely to be in English. Sure, some stupid laws have helped out too but this is a trend that was going to happen in the US for the same reasons English is increasingly used worldwide, but we don’t have a national language that English is being added to to promote being bilingual. Quebec has been fighting the trend though legislation since it was happening there as well.
Even regional dialects of English are being homogenized within the US. It is less likely for people traveling across many states to be unable to understand a regional dialect as was fairly common before cheap long distance communication.
I actually has another language, but kinda never used it. The Mandarin part of my brain is sort of “inactive” ever since I immigrated to the US, because I mostly like to watch western content, and Chinese drama is way too censored, cliche, and never explores new concepts Most of the stuff is WW2 drama, or its about the distsnt past like the imperial dynasties, its too much cringy romance stuff, has this weird conservative “men strong, woman weak” trope, no LGBT characters, no plot twists because every plot is follows a predictible pattern. I never once seen an accurate portrayal of child abuse. Its always the kid character being portrayed as a psycopath, and they never portray the parents with any sort of blame. So much Filial Piety propaganda in everyday media.
And ever since I had depression, I feel like none of the people in the Chinese-American community (those who were born in China) could even understand what depression is like. Whereas at least those who grew up under a western culture sort of understands what depression is.
I just don’t find Mandarin to be very useful, so its kinda a repressed memory now.
I mean, what would communicating with mainland Chinese people even look like? Those nationalists are just gonna call me a “汉奸” (han traitor) merely for the fact that I’m living in the west. Hearing a Chinese language whether it be Cantonese or Mandarin give me PTSD because of how toxic the community is.
I mean, I’m cis, but imagine if I came out as trans or gay (I’m not, I’m saying hypothetically if I were), my parents would tell me to go to the 18th level of hell and my entire extended family would look at me in a weird way. I’m struggling with depression and everyone just assumes I’m being lazy. No fuck off, I don’t need your stupid necklace to “protect me from evil spirits”, I need my meds. I sort of just expect anyone speaking Cantonese or Mandarin to be extremely conservative.
As for other languages, they tried teaching spanish in middle school and highschool but I didn’t retain and memory of most of it. Unless they were taking us on a school trip to Spain or Mexico, its very impractical to learn it. And I do not live in a hispanic nighborhood so its practically impossible to learn. I mean, I couldn’t think of a scenario where I ever needed to speak another language. And I already understand enough Cantonese to understand my parents gossipping with other people, I don’t really want to have a conversation with them anyways, so no need to expand my vocabulary.
I am actively working on learning spanish as an American, because I want to be able to speak to people when I go to central and south America.
I have far less interest in learning french or german, because Europe is both expensive to get to for me, and expensive to stay in relative to other places I have equal interest in travelling to. And besides that, if I were to travel to Europe, I’ve been told that everyone there already speaks english anyway. And besides that, I’ve been told that even if I try to learn french or german, the locals will just speak to me in English anyway since it is faster for them. Due to this, learning these languages largely becomes an intellectual exercise performed for its own sake. And if I’m going to spend hours doing some sort of intellectual hobby, I could just as easily want to learn to paint or play the guitar or perform statistical analysis on the different varieties of weeds in my back yard.
yeah, broadly speaking, there are two languages spoken on this continent and french is not one of them (désolée Quebec)
Presumably you’re browsing english-language Lemmy
Most people are going to want to converse in their native/primary language, and by numbers that means a lot of Americans who are, of course, primarily concerned with American issues
There’s also the fact that America is a huge player on the international stage, so American issues can have a lot of repercussions in other countries
And if you haven’t noticed, America has kind of a lot of shit going on and there is a lot to talk about there.
Kind of a natural thing to happen, french lemmy (and reddit) is very france focused in much the same way.
Well said!
Everyone slows down to watch the car wreck.
I see German content here all the time, even though I don’t understand it or follow it.
I’ve blocked so much german.
Because the Europeans post in their weirdo languages.
NEIN
Nee hoor, dat doen wij helemaal niet!
Waar heb je het over?
É raro mas acontece.
Nem
Squomp, squendled scruinion.
Have you seen the shitstorm we’re (U.S.) in? We’re like the worst car crash you’ve ever seen and then the ambulance also crashes then the fire truck blows up and then aliens come down and start attacking…kinda hard to look away.
You forgot the train derailment and plane crash…
Because it’s the most newsworthy country at the moment. The most powerful country in the world is crashing before your eyes, whilst the rest of the world mostly continues on as it was. Yeah, some noteworthy things are happening all over the world, but that’s not as dramatic as the fall of arguably the most hated country in the world. And everything from genocide to climate change, disease and general suffering can be at least tangentially related to the disaster that is the US and it’s administration. I mean, what noteworthy things are there to chide Sweden for? Anything? Is it comparible to the horrors and despair that the US is causing? There’s your answer.
… but that’s not as dramatic as the fall of arguably the most hated country in the world
Easy there, lets not forget Israel. America is maybe right behind them though.
That’s why that key word, “arguably” is there. Russia is also working for that title.
Most of the things happening in Israel now is because of the US though. Netanyahu really felt empowered by Trump becoming president, and rightly so, because he can manipulate that orange toddler into doing anything he wants.
what noteworthy things are there to chide Sweden for?
They’re been losing Social Bastion points for a while now and are turning a hard right towards Aryan Master-race ethos.
Most of europe actually.
Please. Let it diversify.
As a US dweller, I’d love it to be anything but US centric.
I think I know what you mean. When I go on holidays, the last place I want to spend my days is in Irish pubs. The good ones can be lovely, and it’s nice to meet new people from home, but it’s not why I’m there.
Yes!
And also, imagine the loudest bits of your local pubs are Trump, Trump, Trump, 24/7/365.
That’s another good point. That mindset is probably overrepresented online.
The US is the largest English-speaking country by far and this post is in English. Switch to another language and you’ll see less US stuff.
That has nothing to do with anything. You will obviously not be aware of it, but by far the greater majority of English speakers you encounter on the internet are not actually from an English speaking country, and definitely not from the US. That is because English functions as the lingua franca of the internet, so we have to use English to be mutually understood.
yeah, I want to hear more about which of your former ministers have shit themselves at McDonalds!
My guess is because the US is a dumpster fire that is exploding right now, and let’s be honest: who doesn’t slow down to “rubber neck” a dumpster fire when they’re passing by?
Once we’ve completely fallen on our asses, and worn ourselves out crying like little babies, I’m sure the noise will subside.
Until then you probably want to get a lemmy client that supports keyword filtering and you can at least lessen the noise a little.
~As an American, I don’t know if “rubber necking” is a known colloquialism outside of the US. So, if you don’t know, it’s a term used to refer to the assholes on the road who slow down to gawk at traffic accidents as if they’ve never seen one before; very, very annoying.~
From around 7PM - 9PM HST, lemmy is almost 100% German.
No idea where/what time HST is, but I agree, there is a “German time”, not so for French, Italian, …
https://www.timetemperature.com/tzhi/honolulu.shtml
My read is that this is about when Germans are waking up, so there are many people posting whatever the new’s of the day is. It just so happens that it corresponds with the time of the evening after work where I might browse lemmy while watching a show.
if there were countries in Europe that were as politically idiotic as the US has been for literal decades I’m sure you’d read about that place more than the US.
I live in Canada and as far as political news goes here…it’s dreadfully boring and I imagine it’s the same for most of Europe. It’s always been like that. even regular news here it’s boring. nothing dramatic happens because unlike the US most of the world has their shit together when compared to the US.
I miss the days of boring US politics
Donald Trump and the current iteration of america are train wrecks. It’s hard to look away no matter where you are in the world. Super power countries don’t fall every day.
Because in a 24 hour news cycle the most interesting story gets the most airtime? Also we likely outnumber you on any engagement. I can’t tell you the last time I saw a story from Canada or Germany or the uk that beats felonious demented white nationalist pedophile attempts to ruin entire world in narcissistic crashout. Even if a euro story is important, There are likely less lemmy users who even have a chance of seeing the story much less understand the context enough to engage. Even chinese people are engaging with America’s shit show on xiaohongshu. It’s a matter of worldwide impact on every platform. Everyone here to watch Nero fiddle
