• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    I’d make an argument for the opposite if we’re talking about the general field. The major OEMs are going head first into enshittification, while other companies are building for more open ecosystems.

    For anyone looking for a list of manufacturers intentionally trying to make their hardware more compatible with open ecosystems:

    • Framework
    • System76
    • ASRock
    • Minisforum
    • Slimbook (they make the KDE branded laptop)
    • MNT
    • GL.iNet (routers only so far)
    • Penguin
    • Supermicro
    • Star Labs
    • Pine
    • Clevo

    I’m sure there are others, but these are the ones that are deliberately building intentionally FOR mass compatibility, unlike HP, Dell, Lenovo, ASUS…etc.

    This is not to say there aren’t some models from the major manufacturer product lines that aren’t widely compatible, but their main focus is not those products.

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      11 days ago

      Hmmmmm, I’ll go with Clevo. Because I’m from Cleveland, and it’s called Clevo. It’s like the PC brand that was too drunk to spell Cleveland. Which is pretty on brand for this city.

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        11 days ago

        They’ll get an upvote just for that explanation 😂

        Framework is honestly the best thing on the market right now though, gotta say.

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        11 days ago

        System76s’ (at least used to) use rebranded Clevo laptops with their own flashed motherboard firmware. I’ve replaced parts on mine with direct Clevo spare parts.

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          Unlike most, though, Clevo has been around for decades and many, many other brands rebrand and sell their laptops. If you’ve ever owned a laptop made by a semi-local manufacturer, it’s probably a rebranded Clevo.

          What that says about the quality though, I don’t know. My laptops have all been non-Clevo-rebrands. But they’re an established company at least.

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      11 days ago

      I can say I’ll never buy another lenovo product again.

      My laptop is, of course, broken at both hinges due to ridiculously thin and cheap plastic.

      This is inexcusable and only exists to make a few rich people a bit richer.

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        10 days ago

        Very sad to see the downfall of a once great brand… old Lenovos will easily outlast any new Lenovo.

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        9 days ago

        Well, the rootkits were the last straw for me, a decade ago. Used to buy Lenovo religiously.

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      11 days ago

      Tuxedo Computers from Germany also make PCs specifically for Linux (you can run Windows if you really have to).

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      11 days ago

      I want the pine products but every time I see the reviews it seems like they are not the greatest at the more common tasks.

      At some point I want to get an MST if/when my system76 dies. But it’s a easy to repair so it will probably be a while.

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          10 days ago

          These brands selling their own refurbished products is great news.

          It gives you the ability to still support them while not creating directly more e-waste and benefitting from a cheaper price.

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          11 days ago

          Thanks but a friend of mine had bad experiences with it. Something to do with the power and hinges. Lots of costly repairs on the first year or so.

          Hopefully they fixed the issue.