• flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    The actual title of the video is:

    Our GPU Black Market Documentary Has Been Taken Down by Bloomberg

    Way less Click Bait sounding. And while a shitty thing for Bloomberg to do it is not any different than what tons of channels have been dealing with for years. So the Youtube sky is not falling any faster now than it was last week.

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    I would like to see more content relating to the last interview in the video with Mr. Pigeon. Truly think he has great arguments that need further airtime

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    How is his channel going to be deleted? They appealed the take down and YouTube will reinstate the video in a matter of 10 days if Bloomberg failed to produce proof that he used their copy right shit. I’m actually genuinely asking because I watched the whole video and Steve didn’t say anything about their channel being deleted.

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      3 dmca/copyright strikes on a channel and yt deletes you. It was mentioned near the beginning of the video.

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        Right but Bloomberg only did it once, right? Or are they talking about “in general”?

        Why is this being downvoted? I’m genuinely asking questions 😂.

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          You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown. Then you are deleted and can only hope to beg youtube to reinstate you on twitter.

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            That’s fucking insane. I can only imagine how scary it is for those who make YouTube their full-time job. :/

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      I would assume its in reference to the section of the video quoting YouTube’s policies that channels can be removed after 3 copyright strikes. Bloomberg has 10 days to appeal to YouTube and keep the strike active

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      Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it’s a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive. 3 strikes and YouTube closes the channel with near zero option for appeal.

      Gamers Nexus cannot manage if a big company like Bloomberg goes all in. They can easily bankrupt a small channel like Gamers Nexus with frivolous lawsuits. And if you are bankrupt, you can’t defend yourself.

      The US judicial system is heavily tilted towards those that have more money.

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        “small.”

        Make no mistake. Gamers Nexus is a multi million dollar company.

        Sure, Bloomberg is much, much bigger. But while gamers Nexus is the underdog, it’s not the toothless underdog. That little fucker will bite in bloomberg’s ankles before it dies and tbf: it looks like it’s already yapping and took it’s first bite.

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          What’s the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars?

          Answer: roughly a billion dollars.

          Being a million-dollar company means nothing against a company where a million dollars can count as little more than a rounding error.

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          That is true, but yes Gamers Nexus is (relatively) small, and a million dollars can be gone in no time, if a multi billion dollar company decides you need to be gone.
          1 million dollars is far from enough to run just a single somewhat high profile copyright lawsuit.

          This case is simple, so they will probably manage that pretty easily, there is basically no way Bloomberg can win. It’s just a typical harassment tactic that will work against by far the most smaller outlets. But Steve is smart, he knows bullshit when he sees it, and he is not easily scared.

          But if Bloomberg gets pissed enough, Gamers Nexus could soon be toast. Just like Gamers Nexus has friends more powerful than themselves, so does Bloomberg.

          And 3 frivolous take down notices can appear from various sources in no time. And to YouTube Gamers Nexus is definitely small fry.

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            Fortunately, New York has anti-SLAPP laws. In fact, they made them stronger when it comes to matters that touch free speech on public issues, which is what reporting something the president said would fall squarely under.

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      I sympathize with Steve and how he is, and how he goes about explaining things. And the style of making sharp points.

      But he’s also flawed, and knows how to play the content game. This is nearly just clickbait. And they flew across the country in service of his style of rhetoric.

      I honestly wish more people with audiences were just as pedantic and critical as he is. But he also has his own set of biases in the computer landscape. He is still a Gamer after all.

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        I don’t think it’s clickbait at all. He’s in real danger of being silenced. With this latest project he reached into a massive wasp nest for sure, but I admire his efforts to speak up in cases like this.

        And I haven’t found any bias in his content in general. He’s pretty transparent about his methodologies.

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          He has a huge bias against Macs. I suspect you won’t be receptive to that idea.

          There’s a general sense of consoles and other devices being beneath the channel. Little comments often surface during news segments that touch on them. It’s not that they don’t acknowledge them.

          And with how shitty Microsoft is, you’d think they would be more even handed about the whole thing.

          But this is filtered though my sensitive ears because I came up with Mac gaming and console gaming, and I’m sensitive to when people are dismissive of other options. The same thing use to happen to Linux until the Steam Deck and associated software support from valve forced people out of treating all Linux gaming as an afterthought.

          Edit: use your words guys. The downvotes are nonsense.

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    All YouTube will be is just AI “creator” slop soon. People should be ditching that shit post-haste.

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      Aw, don’t you love searching for an update on something just for the algorithm to show you a low view count video that’s a mediocre computer voice talking over a barely related slideshow?

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        Oh absolutely. And it’s one of the same 3 or 4 voices in every video. And not only that, but a lot of the videos themselves are AI. Check the comments… yeah. No one notices or even cares.

        It’s a foregone conclusion at this point. AI going to absolutely wreck the creativity of mankind. Art will be viewed in history books, and it’s fucking sad.

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          I would recommend going to some local art faires, it will soothe your anxiety about the future (of art). I bought a small oil-on-canvas painting of a sailboat at sunset from a young artist at a recent art faire, who was thrilled to talk about art and even tried to give me the painting for free. Creating art by hand is soul-satisfying, and rest assured, my friend, it will never be replaced my AI.

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            God I hope you’re right. We create such beautiful things. I’d hate to see humanity become so hollow that we stoop to accepting AI slop as art.

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              Well, just think about how pervasive cheap junk plastic (toys, food packaging, vehicles, furniture, etc) is in our society, yet there are tons of people who make or buy things made out of high quality materials like solid wood furniture or quality steel kitchen appliances. So, there will always be people who reject imitation and embrace originality (and you can find them at art festivals!)

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                I’m just thinking about all of the gigs and contracts musicians and other artists are going to miss out on because some smug kid with a laptop can coherently type a string of words into a field a produce what gets the job done for a quarter of the price.

                It’s a shame.

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                  Maybe that will happen in those giant urban nightmares they call cities. I moved out of the decaying concrete jungle (Escape From L.A.!) and have been living in small towns for the past decade. Here, live music is made every night, spilling out onto the boardwalk and carried by the wind to brighten and invigorate minds old and new. Real music is an art that will survive the AI apocalypse, and perhaps be the last echo of our civilization, spreading out into the cosmos long after we’re gone, and exchanting distant (alien) minds.

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      Before Google came along, most search engines were manually curated. I’m disappointed that nobody’s had any success bringing that concept back. They always cave in and take the cheap route by trying to make the general public & algorithms rate things, which of course instantly gets gamed to uselessness.

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        The pagerank algorithm worked fine for many years in the 2000-2010s before google transitioned into a full time advertising company

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        Isn’t this a bit disingenuous to why they originally started to change the algorithm though?

        People figured it out and started abusing it by spinning up proxy websites that would just link to the sites they wanted higher up in the rankings. You could argue Google only became an advertising company so that they could regulate that whilst also taking a slice.

        I’m not arguing that they’ve since lost their way though.

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    I don’t watch his channel, but from here it seems like he is in a “rage” spiral. Like being a bit unpleasant and when people respond to that he doubles down going fro just a bit to kind of an ass

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      Yeah it’s strange why more people don’t just give into corporate greed and losing ownership of their channels when they discuss potential (obvious) corruption.

      Upsetting that they would react in a negative way!

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      Ive also only seen a few videos of his over the last few years but it seems like he’s recently had some wildly successful videos based off exposing corruption in the PC/tech industry and has morphed his channel from tech reviews to some sort of investigative journalism chasing that high he got from said viral videos.

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        He goes into detail on some of the videos, but to summarize the “controversial” videos due less well when it comes to recouping the money it takes to film them (if at all). They (often):

        • have to account for more travel expenses to interview people
        • can’t be sponsored since no one wants to sign up for those kinds of pieces and depend on ad revenue alone
        • can include additional legal costs (have lawyers review things, etc. )
        • for things that are time sensitive, they can also mess with the work life balance of the team and the regularly scheduled content they’ve been working on
        • stress from dealing with mega corps with the money to ruin you as a side quest
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        Chasing the high? You think that is why he does that? Sit down and think …THINK what you just said … according to you his motivation is some junky high chase?

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          At the end of the day he’s running a business and has had lots of financial success with this type of “product,” so it makes sense to focus your efforts on said product going forward.

          I like that he’s exposing corruption, but question his motivations and use of clickbait. I’m not really passing judgement on him either way and things don’t always have to be black and white, “good” or “bad.”

          Do you have something to add? Asking if my stated opinion is “what I think” in three different ways isn’t really contributing much to the conversation.

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            No offense, but Questioning the use of clickbait on youtube is such an idiotic take, clickbait thumbnails and titles make double percentage difference in terms of viewership and thus income for the video. These people employ others, not using clickbait would be a disservice to the employees who depend on this job for their livelihood as a business owner you have a fiduciary duty to the best you can and take care of your employees.

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              How is that an idiotic take? I watch a ton of YouTube and none of the channels I regularly watch rely on clickbait to push their videos. You could use this same argument to justify it anywhere including ‘regular’ journalism meaning there is no example where clickbait is unacceptable using this logic.

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        What the hell happened? .did my comment hurt you or some one you love?

        I don’t care about him enough to go see if all the drama is justified, so I’m not going to. I just said what I thought, and without pretending to know it all.

        If only those who are up to date in his drama are allowed to say anything, then you only hear the crybaby fanboys, because nobody else cares

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      On one hand, yes. Totally. Just like the Roblox vigilante stuff and the SKG stuff, etc.

      But this video and those examples are connected to larger systemic issues in the world and in the tech industry. It’s not just YouTuber beefs or relationship drama.