putting limits on the number of subs a user can moderate is like putting limits on the number of articles a wikipedia editor can edit.
typically moderation is an opt in job and you want people who actually want to do it to keep things going smoothly. all this will do is make the pool even smaller which will lead to subs becoming more toxic.
And yet they still shadowban. Fuck Reddit.
Breaking news: Reddit is on fire again. In other news, rain contains water and Twitter is full of Nazis. More at ten.
Holy shit, they are finally doing something about karmawhores! Not in a particular effective way, they can just alt themselves to kingdom come, but they are doing it.
It was sometimes very telling where those mods were participating in, and given that they’ve also recently implemented features to make that more difficult (anonymized moderator replies, hidden mod lists, hidden user histories) but haven’t really addressed the alt issue, it may have to do more with those embarrassments. Bye bye to the last vestiges of self-incrimination Reddit provided for.
Good. We already saw the abuses of certain mods who were basically running a reddit mafia, with power over multiple subs and abused the every living fuck out of that power. Reddits mods, I cant think of anyone more deserving of having their power striped away. Ideally, it would be 1 sub, as 5 is still too many.
I have negative respect for mods at this point.
I’ve seen too much unchecked mod abuse to ever take their decisions seriously again.
I was in the WNBA sub a while back. And there was a conversation going about fair pay. I wasnt too into it, but I commented “Is the league profitable now? I thought it was still needing investment from the NBA?” Got instantly banned, and a rather nasty message from a lesbian woman, who was also non binary and “2S”. Why was any of that relevant to the conversation? Fuck knows. But she made a point of telling me anyway, while calling me a troll for saying that the WNBA was shit… which I didnt, as you can see from the comment. During the discussion of her inserting what she thought I was saying, I got the back story. I was then reddit banned for “harassment”. Thats right, she reported me to reddit for asking why I was banned, and saying that I never did what she said I did.
That was the last interaction I had with a mod, the first was about 20 years ago in an xbox forum. Somehow, a playstation fanboy had got into the mod team and started banning people for saying that they prefer xbox to playstation… on an xbox forum… I have hated mods for as long as Ive been on line. They have nothing been anything other than power hungry bullies.
One the one hand I can understand the issue that one person wielding mod power in many subs is a problem, especially if that mod is prone to abuse of the mod position.
On the other hand, some subs, especially smaller ones, might go modless.
What I would have done differently is that I would not align this rule on the number of subs alone. The size of a sub should also be a factor, as well as overall number of mods in those groups. A good solution would be not as easy as what they propose.
moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
I mean, that’s clearly a rule that considers size of sub a factor, so, um, what?
Honestly just get rid of the mods.
These days some AI bot instructed on the sub rules would probably do a much better job. Nd not be a power hungry bitch
Fuck Reddit basement dwelling mods and fuck Reddit in general, so glad I’m done with that shit app, I say something a little mean and I get perm banned, fucking losers
The echoes in the chamber get louder every day.
I’m starting to get convinced that Redditors and mods are just gluttons for punishment by that platform.
They’re planning on kneecapping old.reddit in this update too, and you see all the typical howling about “if they kill old.reddit I’m leaving fr this time” while at the same time, another big thread one comment lower is about all the ridiculous bans that people have gotten. And this is a mere two years after the API fiasco.
Why do people continue to use a platform that has proven time and time again that the asshole(s) in charge do not give a single fuck about them?
It’s not about the platform but it’s where most of the people are. There’s just not a lot of people here, especially in relation to niche subjects.
Thats what i like about it. They can stay there.
There could be if people had / acted in accordance with any kind of principles of self respect. They’re ants in some rich mega douche’s ant farm, donating their time and energy to their captor, but refuse to make the fucking 6-inch journey to a free ant hill beside them.
Almost all of us are here because of the API bullshit. Those who stayed did us a favour, I reckon.
Tbf most of those are usually either lurkers or commenters. The people who post meaningful content are usually rare. But they used to be a lot more common in the early days though, I wonder what happened.
Fuck it’s been two years…
Reddit is in an incestuous relationship with Google. So it’ll remain relevant as long as it’s results keep getting into the front page of the biggest search engine. Add to that, the results getting fed into AI responses.
Influencers and marketers love Reddit at least as much as they still love Twitter.
All power to the owners. But go on suckers. Keep pretending you have power as mods.
Me literally every time my friends start bitching about Instagram.
Just remember, people will be more open to trying the stuff you’re into if you’re compassionate about the things they’re frustrated with!
(This is intended for anyone who wants friends or acquaintances to try the fediverse platforms. For those who don’t or don’t care that’s perfectly valid too :)
What’s the second logo?
Piefed?
At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
Given Reddit’s past unreasonableness, I wouldn’t be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
*ulterior
While ulterior is probably a better way to say that alternative motive also makes sense given the context.
Thanks, I wanted to say that but I couldn’t figure out how to spell it.
That’s what I guessed. Alternative is a fine alternative word though.
*exterior
The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.
Now /u/spez will have all the power
Yeah that is exactly it. They didn’t want mods to be able to disrupt the site again, so they’re looking to make that more difficult.
God, I am so glad I left that place.
It could be viewed as reasonable if viewed alone. I think that its fine and could make a lot of sense for control over their platform.
The history of reddit sheds a different context in my mind though. Mods are volunteers. Subreddits were established to moderate themselves, implementing nuanced rules for their specific topics that might differ from other subs that need completely different rules and approaches. Its part of what made reddit unique compared to alternate sites.
Then they made moderating much more difficult by eliminating third party apps. Then they started implementing their plans to take the platform where they wanted it, which is fine because its their platform, but they wanted all their mods to do a bunch of work and in a certain manner to make it so. Very demanding on free labor.
So there’s mods still around and they want to restrict them more? Who knows, maybe that’s a great idea but they made the mess they’re in. This decision isn’t a single on on its own, its part of a stack of them.
That was my reaction too. I don’t feel like digging in to see if it’s actually bad though. Not gonna affect my life.
We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn’t include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.
Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.
I heard mods of big subreddits can get basically sponsored by big companies and go to events. Half the pc gaming subreddits have what are basically ad posts pinned by the mods.
It would have made sense if done years ago. Doing it now is suspicious.
Yes, but they are also doing this to deleverage their mods and consolidate censorship power with coporate
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
It limits mods to 5 subs with over 100,000 monthly visits it seems reasonable to limit the mods reach they all have back deals going on to push agendas and ads it’s pretty fucked.
Yeah, I thought it actually may be a rare Reddit W for 2 minutes, until I saw reddit admins will grant exceptions. So likely, mods that push reddits agendas will stay while the uncooperative ones will have to go.
So some of the gentry is not so landed anymore?
