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      “The Jedi are against giving a fuck about anything unless it serves our interests.”

      Can’t imagine why Anakin rebelled.

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        The Jedi are against starting a war without the consent of the people that will actually suffer the consequences of that war.

        At least when it’s not one of them on the line, anyway.

        The thing is, if any of then gave a shit, they’d have her free shortly after leaving, without attacking anybody.

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          They can’t save everybody everywhere, but as you say, they could have used stealth to save people where they can without starting a war.

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            Even acting stealthy would probably be known if they do it often enough. This would stain their reputation as neutral peacekeepers and hamper their ability to prevent conflict between worlds, even if it means not maintaining societal peace within a planet. There could be interesting arguments for saying that this kind of compromise is or isn’t moral. If you want to write an essay about it as a response, be my entertainer :p

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              This kind of thing is why I’d expect there to be more “chaotic good” force users out there that act independently of the Order, instead of every rogue Jedi being super duper evil. Maybe Anakin wouldn’t have gone full evil if he’d had a less strict group to go to. It also would have made it harder for Palpatine to wipe them all out.

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    I always hate plot holes where problems could be solved with money, especially when a character is super rich. Obi-wan and Anakin had years to raise the money to buy Shmi’s freedom from Watto. Qui-gon had plenty of Imperial credits, but Watto wouldn’t accept them.

    So, Ani wins the podtace and then as soon as you’re off planet, hyperspace it to the nearest Republic outpost and trade the credits for some money. Go back, buy Shmi, or just cut Watto the slaver in half with a lightsaber. Obi-Wan cuts a dude’s arm off for much less.

    Or, like, Jedi mind tricks don’t work on Watto, but I bet theres a Durosian jeweler across the street that isn’t immune to Jedi mind tricks. Trade his Republican credits for all the cash in his till and the nicest Aurodium necklaces in the shop.

    And why couldn’t Harry take his best mate Ron shopping with him to pick out some decent dress robes or a new wand? Kid’s got a vault full of gold, and he basically lives at his friend’s house half the time.

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      I feel like most adventure-style movie plots need to be run as a D&D campaign before final edit.

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        So, you’re saying more big bad guy lairs need fire suppression systems? Or was only ever my players who restored to fire as a first, last, and often only, option?

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      why couldn’t Harry take his best mate Ron shopping with him to pick out some decent dress robes or a new wand?

      That would have put a strain on his relationship with the Weasleys:

      He would willingly have split all the money in his Gringotts vault with the Weasleys, but he knew they would never take it.

      - Goblet of Fire, chapter 10

      The few times Harry does buy stuff for Ron, Ron gets quite uncomfortable. Also, the first thing Harry does after giving startup money to the twins is to tell them to buy Ron some new dress robes.

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        Yeah I’ve been seeing this Ron and Harry meme all over the place. I’m not a potter fan, I don’t think the books are anything super special, but still

        It’s very clearly shown that Harry would be willing to help them out financially but they don’t want Harry’s money in the slightest

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        There are a lot of plot holes from the movies that are explained in the books. That doesn’t mean they aren’t plot holes for the movies, because those parts (holes) of the story weren’t included in the story (plot). Like the entirety of the titular mystery of The Half Blood Prince.

        Maybe there’s a novelization of the Phantom Menace that shows Qui-Gon going to all the merchants and failing to exchange his credits for local currency or goods. If it wasn’t in the movie, it’s a hole in the plot.

        The closest we ever get with money issues between Harry and Ron is when Ron tries to buy candy from the trolley, realizes he only has enough for a pack of gum, and declined Harry’s offer to pay.

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      I love how Dragon Ball of all franchises avoids this problem via Bulma just throwing money at every problem that can’t be solved by Goku just punching it really hard. And if she doesn’t do than Hercule aka Mr. Satan does it.

      Which is lampshaded by TFS’ End of Z dub “Man I’m glad all the people with money only use it for good!”

      And it’s hard to argue otherwise because weirdly enough, he’s right, in Dragon Ball excessive wealth is never actually shown to be a bad thing in and of itself. Even the characters shown to be dictators like Frieza are more concerned with causing violence than accumulating wealth.

      Heck the Nazis even show up (the Red Ribbon Army) and the only thing they really want to accomplish is making their leader taller.

      There’s a lot to criticize about Dragon Ball’s story telling, but weirdly enough it never occurred to me “Whitewashing of billionaires” is one of them.

      Even if we get the movies involved, only two DBZ movies involve money. One of them is a billionaire who hosts a tournament, and the only problem is he screws up and accidentally hires REAL aliens instead of actors for the space theme of the final battle, and the other rich guy we see uses his wealth to create super powered clones that obey his every whim… Their only intended purpose is to debunk Hercule/Mr. Satan’s martial arts prowess, which isn’t really an evil act since Mr. Satan is considered a major celebrity due to heroic feats he never did and is incapable of.

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        Excuse me have you ever tried to appease a super powered, magical and immortal pink gum monstrosity with the external personality and impulses control of a 5 years old kid but with the inner sadism of a 12 years old kid?

        Dude deserves that celebrity status

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          He does, but for the record the movie I was talking about (Bio-Broly) takes place before Buu but after Cell, so he’s just a liar at that point.

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    I don’t think I’ve seen this meme format where Anakin and Padmé are reversed. Love it.

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    I enjoy the meme content.

    I enjoy the appropriate inversion of the meme format more.

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    Technically Padmé did try to free Shmi. She sent Sabé (played by Keira Knightley in the movie) to free as many slaves as she could find about four years after Episode 1, and Sabé did manage to free 25 other slaves, including Anakin’s childhood friends, but was unable to find Shmi since she had already been freed by that point and had left Mos Espa. The only sign Sabé could find was the symbol of the White Suns on the door, who were a slave liberation group (and of which Beru Lars was a member), and unfortunately they wouldn’t tell Sabé anything because they didn’t trust her, since she’d decided to try to get information out of local gangsters and criminals rather than going to the White Suns directly. Padmé wanted to send Sabé back to finish the mission, but by that point she was appointed senator and Sabé had other duties to protect her.

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        Maybe she would have survived child birth just fine if she wasn’t forced choked to within an inch of her life just before giving birth.

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          I love that a fucking robot, a literal soulless machine, is the one who makes the “Broken heart” diagnosis

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    “Ani… I would have… but Tatooine is so very… far far away, and I was so busy constantly restyling my hair!”