As you may know, I moved to using my blahaj.zone account almost exclusively, as I kinda disliked the vibe I was getting from .world. At the same time, I also want to gage the feelings people have about the migration. Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world? Are you happy with the change? I want to hear from you:
Very unhappy with the change, I probably won’t go to the .world community and expect/hope that someone will just recreate 196 on Blåhaj.
Every interaction I’ve had with .world mods has rubbed me the wrong way, they don’t take criticism well and are way to keen to appeal to centrist bullshit and shitty lib takes. Blåhaj is my favourite space on the internet at the moment because of the way Ada manages things, I feel safe here. That the 196 mods have a problem with that sends a pretty concerning message imo.
I feel like im missing something here; i though 196 was already part of blahaj.zone? Is this more drama from pug?Oh fuck all of this nonsense. They can try to build their own 196 (with blackjack and hookers) elsewhere if they want, why tf are they being allowed to tank the existing 196!?
All/most of the mods seemed onboard with it, so the community would need to find new mods if it were to remain open. I would be willing to help mod such a com, but I’m not willing to spearhead it. I don’t want to stretch myself thin.
My guess is that the 196 mods decided to do this because they have lemmy.world friends who got banned from blahaj.zone. There has been a growing disconnect between some frequent posters of 196, and the rest of the community. They post good stuff and might even contribute a majority of the content on some days, but they also have edgier sensibilities and higher tolerances for bullshit. This situation doesn’t seem ideological to the mods because their motivation is personal. However, personal relationships play a larger role in our beliefs than most people think.
The mistake the mods made was assuming the queer culture of 196 would transfer over to .world. I highly doubt this will happen after folks got used to blahaj.zone for over a year. Many queer users won’t like the new 196, and as new users join, blahaj.zone users will leave. Given the reactions here, I doubt they can do much now to stop that from happening.
This is a good theory, the perp who had a bitch fit over neopronouns posted to world196 shortly after world196 was relaunched, hmmmmmmmmmp
Also I’d love a blahaj 196 resurgence but I’m too much gremlin to help mod srry :(
i left .world because of their shitty admins and the problems they cause smaller instances. the moderation leaves much to be desired, they have shitty takes, they do whatever they feel like and i dont trust them any more than i trust a site like reddit.
as for 196, i liked the memes, i didnt really interact with the space much as it already felt less “blahaj zone” than the rest of the comms i interact with, so with them moving to .world, i doubt it will get better, and i doubt i will ever want to interact with that comm anymore. it was kinda shitty to not include the community whatsoever, but that kind of behavior is the exact kind i expect from .world mods so i guess they will fit right in.
very much agreed. 196 felt like the odd one out on the plaza of popular communities in general, being on comfy cozy blahaj zone.
whatcha think of special version of 196 for blahaj frens? i saw some peeps here suggesting it and i rllli like the idea!
imagine: u look at post and it makes sense and u go “ah yes, this was made be a genuine human, not a possibly selfish, queerphobic capitalist” and then u add emoticons like [“<3”, “>v<”, “~ ~ ~”] to ur comment to make it extra special.
i like that idea…
i wont participate in the .world 196, and i feel like i will miss the memes over there, so having something like that here would be cool, but i think we should try to make it somewhat distinct, call it 197 or something idk, i would be willing to help mod if we had a decent team, providing a space for my cool nerdy and cute trans fedi friends is something im all about, and wish i could do more of.
big sad feels ;(
i will not join the 196 on the not blahaj zone! GRRRR >:3
i wan the 196 to be all local and comfy. i wan it to feel like home, with all u cuties and non-cuties-but-still-amazing-peeps in it!
i don wan the 196 to be on generic world instance. will join if there be a local 196 blahaj version!
imagine the COMFY FEELS knowing that U PEEPS made the funi im looking at!! <3
I blocked the .world 196 community, safe to say I’m not a fan 🤷♀️
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What happened? I though it was a good place and also I don’t .world is fit for 196.
Same here - if anyone has a breakdown of what these ‘moderatorial and ideological differences’ are that are part of how this is being justified, that would be awesome.
Hell, even just examples of where the clashes were would help me out a lot.
Edit: To those seeing this comment who are also out of the loop, recommend starting here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12464713
If they had involved the community from the start, I would’ve been fine with it (tho I heavy dislike .world). Then again, it would not have happened, had they put it to a poll.
The way it happened now, they’ve lost most of my trust and all of my goodwill. I’ll not move. I hope we get the local 196 unlocked under new management, or otherwise we might have to create a new one.
Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world?
Probably not, and if I do it will be mostly lurking.
like u said on another comment, Id also be willing to mod a new 196 but not spearhead it :3 (and thanks for teaching me a new word X3) and I think a new 196 on blahaj is the best option, either that or the old 196 comes back along with the old mods (which doesnt seem like they will anyway) and I already didnt like them but now I dont trust them at all, maybe it could be called 197 like back in Reddit X3 or just ‘196 Blahaj’ to differentiate it from other 196s in other instances
Wow. This is sad. I didn’t even know 196 was going to migrate before this. I’d probably see it on All once in a while but I don’t think I’d join the community.
I don’t see why folks can’t make their own 196 on each instance. (Maybe there is some reason for not specifically using “196” as the name, but a “196 themed” community.) Even back in Reddit you’d have subreddits that were things like “blah2” or “blah_casual” made by folks unsatisfied with the mods of the previous community. People can use either one or both if they’d like.
The original subreddit was 195 or 194, so you aren’t wrong. I hope it happens, but people need to step up if they want that. I would be willing to help, but I couldn’t do it alone.
I noticed they were somewhat unwilling to/incapable of removing comments that were mildly transphobic a while ago so while I’m disappointed that they are gutting 196 instead of new mods being introduced I’m not surprised.
I unfollowed every .world community I was previously following, then blocked .world entirely during the pre-backtrack period of their “we wanna do what Facebook is doing” announcement. I did unblock it later, but I’m not following anything on that instance, including 196. I don’t believe what Moss and all them said about their talk with the lemmy world admins, I think eventually when they try again with the moderation change, they’ll enforce it on 196 anyway, despite promising to let them moderate with their own rules. I also don’t like that instance having the most content, which is just going to balloon up even more with 196’s memes, since it starts going against the whole point of the fediverse, the decentralization aspect. If people start saying “well Lemmy world has the ‘best admins’ and the most communities so why make this community on another instance?”, that’s gonna have an effect, you know?
I just feel disheartened.
Also yes, I was a rule breaker, basically never posted there despite seeing it every day, but like half the memes I just downloaded and sent to my friends’ dms. So 196 did account for a big chunk of my Lemmy activity.
i’ll continue to browse the one here, and i’ll refuse to put foot on l.w. That’s an incredibly wrong move.
I do not get the rational behind it, i get what they said, but it doesn’t clear anything up because it’s so vague.
I’m not convinced of the necessity of the move and I’m not really attached in anyway to the mod team, not saying I don’t appreciate the work they’ve done, I just have no strong attachment to them being in charge of moderation, so why would I pick up and fallow them? There’s another 196 on here now so no reason to go fallow them to .world.
Also, I’m hesitant to see large communities get concentrated on .world, it’s already large and making it larger seems risky, like putting too many eggs in one basket. If something happens to it and a lot of important communities are based there, then that kind of puts a huge gaping hole in lemmy as a whole. Better to have things distributed more evenly across other instances for the sake of resiliency.
I am in the process of switching my account from world to blahaj. So I’m not particularly happy about this change.
I’ll use the new 196 as a passive viewer, but I’m unlikely to post or comment after this change.
