I think for me it’s alien: covenant. I was really interested in the ideas explored in prometheus and covenant just expanded on them. I don’t get much into the details of why it is or isn’t a good movie.

Luckily, though, HBO ran raised by wolves which really delved into ideals about AI and planet seeding etc. So that itch got way scratched even if the run was cut short.

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      Watched it not long ago. Didn’t realize the people rating it have no appreciation for decent movies.

      It wasn’t phenomenal by any means but it was quite entertaining for the duration of it.

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      I still think League of Extraordinary Gentlemen got unfairly dragged. 16% on Rotten Tomatoes.

      It is a pretty mediocre movie overall, but it is just a lot of fun and I have watched it a dozen times.

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      Surprised it hasn’t come back as a streaming channel series of films like “Knives Out”. It’s got a lot of potential.

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      I remember screening league of extraordinary gentleman and all I could think is it was probably not for me. Not to say someone else wouldn’t like it. I feel like not everything should be rated based on its wide spread appeal.

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      I don’t disagree that it’s a terrible movie, it’s just a terrible movie that I happened to really like.

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    Bladerunner 2049.

    I know a lot of people disliked it compared to the first one, even Ridley Scott himself. But I love the direction Denis Villeneuve took this film in.

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      Did people dislike it compared to the first one? It’s got an 88% on rotten tomatoes, and anyone I’ve talked with about the films prefers the second one.

      I agree with you, by the way, I just don’t think that’s the unpopular take (Ridley’s opinion is meaningless at this point).

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      Ridley Scott is famous for his shit opinions. When he released The Last Duel in the middle of COVID, he complained that “them kids can’t even get off their phone for 2 hours to enjoy art” as thr primary reason it wasn’t making money.

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    Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. Yes it’s utterly ridiculous. I don’t care, it’s still a masterpiece of absurdity to me. That 13% on RT is a shame.

    Also how has it been 23 years since its release.

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    Jupiter Ascending is, in my opinion, a masterpiece. Bees can sense royalty? Fantastic. The bureaucracy android having to bribe his way through the system he was literally created to navigate? Marvelous. Don’t even get me started on the air roller skates. Eddie Redmayne’s four million year old teenager was perfection too. Two volume levels: harsh whisper or screaming.

    It was marketed as some kind of amazing epic, so people approached it wrong I think. It was a Wachowski film. What were they expecting? I went in there assuming it’d be like their Speed Racer movie, but in space. I was not disappointed.

    Second vote would be for Speed Racer, lol.

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      “Ninjas? More like ‘Non-Jas’. Shame what passes for a Ninja these days…”

      And with that, John Goodman became my favorite, ever. :)

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      I saw this years ago in a sci fi double feature at this big old cinema in my city, had Interstellar followed by Jupiter Ascending. I loved it, this very serious dry high concept hard sci fi followed by fuckin rocket boots!

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      Had one gag that made me literally LOL… intentionally…

      They’re trapped in a library, debating the morality of burning books in the fireplace to stay alive.

      “How about all these tax books, can we burn these?”

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        Also:

        “Is there a chance that it will run…” grabs a bottle “…on this?”

        “Are you mad? That’s a twelve years old scotch!” reveals cups

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    League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

    Tron Legacy

    Guyver: Dark Hero

    Strange Days (get the ultimate extended edition fan edit if you can.)

    Wild Wild West

    Demolition Man

    Judge Dredd

    Highlander II

    Jacob Barlow vs the Demonic Toys

    There are a lot of fun movies that are considered garbage.

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      Highlander two? Man, you do you, but that’s an acquired taste. I’d have a hard time picking to place it above or below Rise of Skywalker.

      If you enjoy so bad it’s good: In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale.

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      Judge Dredd was quite good even though Stallone took the helmet off a bunch. IIRC he was willing to do the whole thing in helmet, but I bet the money guys needed to see his face.

      Never thought I’d see the Angel Family on film, that was wild!

      Bonus: The actor playing psychotic cannibal Pa Angel would go on to be the kindly farmer Herschel on Walking Dead.

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          Oh, he definitely did, but I think the Stallone version better captured the absolute bonkers feeling of the comics.

          I just hope the next time someone tackles it we get the Dark Judges storyline, but that might be too expensive to pull off outside full animation.

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        Damn, never made that connection about herschel. I like Stallones dredd just because it’s so quotable.

        Eat recycled food. It’s good for the environment and okay for you.

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      Highlander II

      Liking Highlander II is so far out of my worldview that I didn’t realise it was an option. What was it you enjoyed about the film?

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        Keep in mind i am not at all going to claim it is… Good. or logical… or any of that, but it had the almighty BALLS to go big with being WEIRD.

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      Even though it’s not apocalyptic, Airborne (1993) is one of my all time favorite movies. The main character is great, Seth green is in it, Britney Powell, Chris Conrad, young Jack black, Alanna ubach (from Waiting). It’s about a high school surfer from Cali who gets shipped to Ohio for 6 months and has to fit in. Hilarious and just amazing. I’m not gay, but Shane McDermott… It’s also amazing he went into real estate, I thought he played a great character on screen. All about rollerblading since nowhere to surf.

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        Thank you for that recommendation. I do remember watching it on video, probably about the time it came out. Then absolutely wrecking myself on a hill after I took the brake off my own skates. Fun times indeed. Did not remember Jack Black or Seth Green being in it though. Also you are totes not gay for 90s Shane McDermott. Understood.

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        Great! :D Good to hear that this weird niche from the trash-heap of cinematic history may yet claim another victim.

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          Funnily enough, the day before you posted this, I was reminded of Return To Oz (I was at the zoo and someone… Scared the crap out of me). That’s probably not exactly post apocalyptic or solarpunk, but definitely takes place after a societal collapse of Oz and has creepy weirdos on something like rollerblades. Just in case you want to expand - or dare I say, roll towards the horizon.

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            Oh you mean these fucking guys? They went out of their way to make them especially scary. The whole film is infamous for being basically a kids horror film. Like the bit with the corridor with the disemmbodied heads of the witch all screaming as Fairuza Balk runs through it? Yea…

            There seemed to be an era where traumatising children was part of the draw for the audience and I wonder if it has kind of died out. The Wolves of Willoughby Chase was another one that my parents had to switch off.

            I’m not the film police and your argument for its inclusion as ‘post-apocalyptic but fantasy’ is all cool. So yes I will take it and roll, awkwardly across sand and gravel, mud and debris, into tomorrow’s ongoing dystopia.

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        Thank youI haven’t come across that podcast before. I will definitely check that out. It is a wonderfully silly film.

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      I had totally forgotten about solarbabies… and tonight I’m gonna make sure to drink enough to forget it again.

      the 80s man… phew

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    I JUST rewatched Gone in Sixty Seconds on a whim, on like Thursday, and spotted that it apparently has a 38% critic rating from Rotten Tomatoes. Fuck that noise, that movie is a materpiece of filmography.

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      Agreed! I love to hate gone in sixty seconds, I feel the same way about the need for speed movie as well. If you haven’t seen it I recommend watching the NFS movie.

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      Tomato-meter has it currently as 26%

      I think it was just too much Race, Chase, Heist Fatigue. When it came out, everyone watched it and had a good time. They got lulled in by the 27 F&F movies. But it’s not the same thing.

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          Yeah but the tomato is score has more than that first year of ratings on it right?

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            Uhhhh, I dunno, I suppose that’s possible. Rotten Tomatoes wasn’t around in 2000, was it? Would they have aggregated from, like, newspaper reviews at the time?

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              That’s a damn good question let me look it up

              From their FAQ:

              Rotten Tomatoes has a team of curators whose job is to gather thousands of movie and TV reviews weekly. The team constantly collects movie and TV reviews from Tomatometer-approved critics and publications generating Tomatometer scores. Our curation process considers these reviews, noting if they are Fresh or Rotten, and our curators choose a representative pull-quote. Tomatometer-approved critics can also self-submit their reviews.

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      Oh damn that’s a perfect example of what OP was asking for. 23% rotten tomatoe rating with 92% audience rating

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    Maximum overdrive. 1986, coked up actors, campy as hell but taking itself very seriously, 14% rotten tomatoes score.

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    Josie and the Pussycats.

    Rated 5.7 by people who had no clue what it was saying at the time. I feel like if it was released in today’s pop culture environment it would fare far far better.

    It’s far more satirical, clever and funny than an Archie adjacent bubblegum pop movie has any right to be.

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    I think everyone should see the 2019 Cats. I was not bored, and I had a strong emotional reaction to the movie. Was it shit? Oh absolutely, in ways that I didn’t even know movies could be shit. But it was not boring! So if I were going to recommend a movie to someone who hadn’t seen it yet, Cats would be near the top of that list.

    Movies that I actually love despite them having poor ratings…

    • Event Horizon - 6.6 IMDB / 35% RT - Haunted house in space. Great performances from a great cast. Properly fucked up. Love seeing blue collar workers in scifi.

    • Death to Smoochy - 6.3 IMDB / 42% RT - See Robin Williams go hard on the R-rating playing a children’s show host on a downward spiral. One of my favorite Williams performances.

    • Legend (1985) - 6.3 IMDB / 41% RT - Shot entirely inside of a huge bag of cocaine. All vibes, don’t question any of it, logic has no place here. Watch the theatrical cut with Tangerine Dream, because the director’s cut with Jerry Goldsmith is honestly just vague fantasy noodling, and the 80s power jams are at least 40% of the charm.

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        I really like the fanon that it’s a prequel to Warhammer 40k before the Gellar Field was invented.

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      If Event Horizon has bad ratings that is my answer, love that movie, I thought it was universally considered good though.

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      I think the thing with Cats is that it’s totally OK if a broadway musical has no plot and doesn’t make sense, you’re going for the experience.

      Film has a history of narrative and you just can’t drop in a word like “jellicle” and expect to get away with it.

      OTOH complaining about jellicle in Cats would be a lot like walking out of a Smurfs movie complaining about “Man, they sure do say ‘Smurf’ a lot.”

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        complaining about jellicle in Cats would be a lot like walking out of a Smurfs movie complaining about “Man, they sure do say ‘Smurf’ a lot.”

        Thing is, there’s a lot about the source material that, if you’re not there for it, then you shouldn’t even be in the theatre. No plot, sexy cat monsters, absurd lyrics, that’s all there from the beginning. No, the 2019 movie is fucked up in ways that have nothing to do with T. S. Eliot or Andrew Lloyd Webber.

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      I saw part of Cats, but I refuse to watch it until they release the butthole cut.