• Raltoid@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    IMO the core issue started with script writers and produces wanting to tell a story and trying to mold that story into a trek universe.

    That’s sadly been a very common thing in recent years. Writers noticed that fewer and fewer original shows were being made, and latched onto existing IPs or adaptations. And then try to force their idea onto that, which drastically change how people act in comparison and often entire premises of how story-universes work. And Discovery had staff officers acting more over-the-top with emotional outbursts than in Lower Decks. So I might finish it with the “they’re high on spores all the time” headcanon.

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      Spores were the plot distraction for the first 2 season, they almost stopped using it in 3rd going forward

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      I wouldn’t necessarily blame the writers for the shift. The bigwigs making the decision believe that using existing IP means that half the marketing job is already done.

      Look at Babylon 5 vs DS 9- the networks aired them opposite each other and DS9 dominated. Even though ds9 was more or less inspired by an early show bible for bab5, that was left with UPN.

      The problem is… people know what Star Trek is, and when it’s “not trek”… well, people walk away pissed.

      Edit to add: with the prevalence of streaming on demand, there’s a lower amount of completion. If DS9 and Bab5 came out today, most of us would happily watch both.

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        I wouldn’t necessarily blame the writers for the shift. The bigwigs making the decision believe that using existing IP means that half the marketing job is already done.

        I don’t blame them for the shift at all, that’s all on the higher ups who only see dollars. I do however blame them for doing things like not engaging with the source material and actively changing character personalities to fit their own idea of the story. Specially when it is so drastic that it goes against the overall story and it has to be retconned or explained in unbelivable ways.

        (Yes I’m still bitter about The Witcher show)

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          2 days ago

          And their constant virtue signalling that they need for marginalized groups,