And somehow every single time the problem was so easy to solve, but apparently crying about it is the better solution.
As always the best way to get a response on the internet is not to ask a question.
The best way is to post a wrong answer.
Classic murphys law.
You are WRONG! That is Cunningham’s Law!
(Hook, line, and sinker)
This is right and every body agrees.
That’s me but I can’t make memes
Of course i know him, he’s me
The skip button, it’s right there, waiting to be clicked!
How is this clown behavior? If anything, not accepting the proposed solution to the issue would be it
This is more like, wisdom of the ancients kind of thing
Debianees will only answer your inquiry, however, if it is worded in a proper polite way. Here is a proper, polite way to ask for tech support.
OMG! DEBIAN IS SO PATHETIC! IT CAN’T ________, BUT WINDOWS CAN _____ JUST BY CLICKING _______!
Rushing to defend their precious Linux, they will give the most descriptive, polite, useful information possible. If you use “normal” manners though, you will most likely get flamed, insulted, and receive at least 10 viruses by email. All of which will be written in “1337”, for no appearent reason. Your IP will be traced, and eventually your Linux OS will be hijacked and destroyed. In some cases your CPU might melt from having to handle so much hacking by insecure “Debianees”.
This is just a variant of the “Ask question, use an alt acc to answer it incorrectly” method of getting help.
Harness the OCD of the internet (https://xkcd.com/386/)
The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.
Perfect demonstration :)
Well played. Glad to assist.
Linus Sebastian . Is this you?
So many times I see junior Devs (or not so juniors) and normies seeing an error message and, visibly, static plays between their ears on their mental TV set, then they just click the first button that looks appropriate and complain it didn’t work.
The text of the message does not get read or parsed.
“You need to close the program to continue”. Doesn’t work.
“Unexpected X at line N” Doesn’t work.
Drives me insane.
Unfortunately, so many error messages are so utterly useless that it has taught many people that all errors are just pointless background noise even if they’re actually giving useful info.
I mean, java and Microsoft errors are preceded by 120 characters of useless trash oftentimes, that is equally as infuriating.
Or Windows gives you a blue screen and just “BAD_POOL_HEADER”.
I got that intermittently at work on an instrument about every week or two. The best answer I could find was “it could be software or hardware related”. Yeah, thanks for that, problem solved. Wish I had thought of that. Not even a time stamp. Finally found out when it occurred to within 20 minutes and there was jack shit in the logs.
IT ended up calling in a service tech to re-image the computer.
Ah, windows logs, another amazing experience that doesn’t make me want to kill everyone.
tail /var/log/thing.logis far too easy
Yeah, proprietary software are the worst offenders.
I just watched that Linus tech tips video where the guy uninstalls critical system components by accident while trying to install steam.
First the GUI for the package manager refuses to do it, then apt gives him a warning that he’s going to break his system. It even makes him type “Yes, do what I say!” but he’s too much of a clown to read the warning messages all over his screen. He even smirks at the camera about how silly it is that he would need to type such a thing before he proceeds to mess everything up.
People were trying to defend him, saying that the system shouldn’t have allowed him to do it or that the warnings should have been flashing and shooting rainbows out of the monitor or that a robot arm should have come out and started honking his clown nose to let him know he was doing something stupid.
In fairness, when you’re used to windows those kinds of warnings basically mean nothing to you.
It’s like when you hit snooze on an alarm so many times that you just sleep through your alarm and it becomes background noise.
Also, it’s defiantly a glaring issue if installing steam means uninstalling your whole DE.
Still, as a tech YTer who was exploring something out of his elements he should have looked into every error, warning, and message.
Also, it’s defiantly a glaring issue if installing steam means uninstalling your whole DE.
Can you explain to me how the fuck that even happened?
And 2. Could it have been prevented by him actually following the installation guide and rehashing the bloody image?
Someone made a video about a steam bug that deleted the PC, not sure if it’s the same bug that happened with Linus but shows how some bugs has that kind of power, has a great explanation: How A Steam Bug Deleted Someone’s Entire PC
Linus and Linux is a rare view behind the curtain
There have been some accusations about him being a sociopath by Louis Rossmann and others, so it might just be that CIA money flowing into his pocket thats preventing him from rational thought
Also, isn’t he a fucking IT guy? How did he even manage to build that many PCs and make all those videos about tech topics when he can’t even read a red coloured warning and having to type in a very suspicious message?
I haven’t watched much of Linus’s stuff, but his behavior in the three Linux challenge videos reminded me of the way Conan O’Brien would act with his staff. It struck me as an off-putting blend of arrogance, entitlement, and impatient senility.
Yes, exactly
Like, take his 10 year old Video of sticking in aß many Keyboards as possible
He somehow knew all the standards, could troubleshoot it all and still just seemed very competent
With the Linux video, I think he’s like trying to behave like a new user? (Like please tell me who the fuck would be a new user and not go to the forum once there’s a problem, but instead use this terminal and ignore all warnings?)
But even then, like, he knows his channel is not directed towards very tech incompetent people he is trying to emulate. But instead of just doing it like he himself would use Linux, he still put up this costume of ignorance and pretended like this is hard to do. But if you even had the slightest experience with the terminal, even cmd, you will instantly see for how dumb he is taking you by „Trying to emulate his viewership”. And even if you don’t want to make a positive video about Linux, just talk about how office dosent work on it, or how kernel level anti cheat is bad
But instead he is still making videos about trying some very special shit no one would ever do (like install arch as a beginner, install SteamOS even tho there’s Chimera and Bazzite, etc) failing at this very special thing, and then talking about it like this is the Linux experience.
Like, for real, I will bet my nudes that this decade he will try to install Gentoo, say that its the Linux experience, fail badly, and say that Linux is bad.
Linus bothers me quite a bit and I’m fairly critical of him, but I don’t know if I would go as far as saying he is a sociopath. We would probably even be friends, but I would call him on his bull shit. This is my own observations but he strikes me as having pretty strong ADHD combined with getting lucky and big a bit faster than he could adjust to.
His company has a much lower turnover rate than the industry standard and it doesn’t seem like anyone that has been on screen couldn’t do well elsewhere. That implies to me that the working environment is at least pretty good. He also seems to want to do right by his employees and knows that he is the face of the company and ultimately their paycheck. That combined with an ego that is a little too big, and maybe some issues with reading the room associated with being on the spectrum (again supposition), makes some of his reactions to public push back understandable even if it’s not OK.
Also it depends on what you consider an IT guy. He doesn’t have experience coding or doing any low level stuff, he just really enjoys building computers and tech in general which can explain a lot of his poor or dumb decisions. What he appears to actually be very good at with tech is his knowledge of supply chains, interactions between companies, and knowing what consumers are likely to actually want.
To be fair that was a broken package in pop_os. It wasn’t entirely his fault. If his view was to operate as a normal user , having the os uninstalling your desktop environment when you try to install steam is a valid concern.
Nvmd, I fixed the issue
I’ve switched to Linux because at this point it’s easier to deal with problems on Linux than using Windows and getting it to usable state.
And if something doesn’t run on Linux… I use something else, easy as that.
Yeah? Try playing MYST VR with a quest 2 and Nvidia GPU.
I love Linux, but sometimes I just wanna pin it against the wall and make violent love to it until my issue is fixed. Though usually the love making is more of a frustrating 6 hours of troubleshooting.
BTW, are we allowed to sexualize an OS?
Initial release: September 17, 1991; 33 years ago
Sure
I had really bad performance with an nvidia GPU in VR in Linux, once, and all I could find that described the same specific issue I had was a steam community discussion post by someone who claimed that the steam vr compositor was just bugged, and no less that it was a bug regression, and there was nothing to do but wait for Valve to fix it. I think the post was already a year old when I found it.
I haven’t tried it again, yet, but I’ve also moved to arch with Wayland since then. And the nvidia drivers did become much more reliable for me, so maybe it will magically work out of the box this time… Or maybe it won’t, and I’ll just end up wasting hours trying to find a solution while wading through AI polluted Google searches again before giving up.
quest 2
There’s your problem right there. /s
I’ve been in the comments section once or twice. The solution was “RTFM.”
The good old ways. I miss them.
Nowadays, it’s more “User Manual? You mean the Manufacturer’s Opinion?”
RTFM in this case means: Read the fucking man-page
Sometimes I get confused with man pages and have to go on other sites with different explanations and examples. Maybe that’s just me
The man pages would be so much less dry if they just put a few examples at the top. But nope. So I continue to
curl cht.sh/taruntil the heat death of the universeEdit: autocorrect
Windows and Mac have taught people to ignore safety error messages. We’re gonna be dealing with the fallout of that for generations.
Windows is better… oh, really? Linux is like a breath of fresh air for me, and in two years of using it, I have never noticed or encountered any critical problems or bugs, but when there is a problem, it is usually not so difficult to solve it because there are resources and people who can help.
My only regret is that I didn’t try Linux a few years ago.
Same experience here… It feels like what using personal computers was always supposed to feel like before capitalism infected it.
I don’t like windows, but I’ve been using various distros on and off for 15 years and it was absolutely never painless. Nvidia drivers still barely work for me (although admittedly they are shit on windows too). Making my computer wake from sleep is the stuff of nightmares. Integrated laptop webcam? No way in hell.
The only thing I give Linux a top score in is compatibility with my audio interface.
Windows is better - they wouldn’t use it for atm’s if it wasn’t superior
Myguy, let me introduce you to the /s modifier
People routinely use worse options because of familiarity
Jokes aside, I asked my previous boss once why everyone kept paying for Microsoft products instead of using FOSS. The answer was paid support and you can sell it.
Fine, I’ll give this strategy a shot too: Linux is crap because when I switch USB audio interface with a switcher the audio becomes extremely borked likely because of buffer settings somehow changing, to me it feels like the buffer is too small and then all these audio crackling issues start propping up.
Windows doesn’t have this issue whatsoever, it’s only when I switch back to Linux in the switcher that the audio is borked.
Pipewire/Pipewire-pulse
I have a Bluetooth dongle headset-mic. Probably for the same buffer reason, it constantly breaks audio when I have multiple audios in/outs running.
The only consistent fix is switching to another audio driver and playing a video on YouTube while I switch it back.
YouTube specifically? Or does it work as long as any audio is running? I usually leave games on and switch back in and the audio’s borked.
I haven’t messed around with audio in a while, but a couple of years ago I did some home recording. And Linux at the time was horrible to use for recording. Got a bunch of latency and some other issues. I found a solution where one guy had written a bunch of scripts to deal with the buffering when switching audio driver. It helped, but it wasn’t perfect.
No idea what the state of audio is now, but it used to suck. And it will probably suck for a while since the major DAWs are all on Windows/Mac. But I would love to be proven wrong
I use reaper on Linux to monitor my guitar coming in from Axe Fx 3’s spdif output with very low latency. What exactly was giving you issues with latency ?
Might have been the soundcard on my laptop, the old external soundcard I used or audio driver. No idea what the problem actually was. This was a couple of years ago, and I wasn’t very proficient in Linux. I gave up, and then haven’t tried again since.
I used Reaper and an old soundcard from Steinberg. Don’t remember which drivers. Think I ran Ubuntu at the time.
