• Taco2112@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

    These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

    I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

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        I don’t know if I like soup. The only soup I ever had was cambells, and it was awful. But then everybody tells me that cambells is the bottom of the barrel scum of the soup world.

        So maybe I just don’t like cambells.

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          Campbell’s classic chicken noodle hits different when you’re recovering from a bout of norovirus.

          But generally yes, canned soup is pretty bad. There’s a ton of soups across most global cuisines, so many so that it’s borderline unbelievable that you’ve never tried a single one.

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      Reminds me of a scene in the Lone Wolf and Cub comic I read when I was younger.

      I don’t remember all the details, but there’s a panel where the two most dangerous samurai in all of feudal Japan are camping out before a fight, and some rando is astonished that these high bred, noble, elite warriors are cooking their own rice. One of the two rips into him about self-sufficiency and how there aren’t always servants to do your cooking for you, and what kind of warrior would just starve when he has no servants around?

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        And what does the article say? Eating soup isn’t manly? WTF? I’d like to hear his rationale for that one, but I’d probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

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      Pretty much how I see it. Being “a man” is being comfortable with who you are and not being scared about what others think. Putting a dress on and having “Tea” with your kids during playtime is just as manly as playing football. (And looks hilarious when you’re a 6 ft tall biker looking dude with a beard and hairy legs like me.)

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    12 days ago

    15 dumbasses in East Bumblefuck: *do something*

    BBC: A NEW GLOBAL TREND?!?!

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    If you have to be told how to be “manly” then you probably definitely aren’t whatever the fuck you even think “manly” is.

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    Manliness has always been a scam.

    Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

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      I was always told to be manly was to show up for those that you love. To be reliable and useful on a day to day basis. All this nonsense about dominance and “independence” is just ridiculous.

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    IF you can be shamed into going a Russian church to be manly, you are headed in the opposite direction from the path to manliness - you become a pussy who can only follow.

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      It’s a hoot. These Ultra Incels think the Orthodox Church is going to hand them a submissive woman. Sounds like their new church is a sausage fest up in there.

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    So fragile, so scared. They are so terrified of being perceived as lesser men that they resort to this crap. It’s just that you could only feel sorry for them… if they didn’t suck, that is.

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    While all of you meme and joke and minimize the threat, a rising wave of disaffected boys has grown up under the most toxic of social environments and still NONE of you take this seriously.

    When you see the world in ten years time you will kick yourselves for doing nothing to stop it now in its infancy

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      Stop what? Stop it how? Suddenly make every parent in the US loving, compassionate, and effective at raising their children? Or maybe we could just fix the economy? One of those is bound to work, easy!

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        There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore

        The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn’t changing

        There’s also a significant possibility we simply won’t be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over

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          If deplatforming and political action by the ruling class are the main methods to stop this crisis, then none of us had any power to do anything in the first place

          It’s no wonder no one takes this seriously: the epidemic of disaffected young men is only a symptom of greater societal issues and can’t effectively be addressed on its own. That’s also what I was getting at with my comment

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          You got all mad for people posting no real solution and when given the chance, offered no real solution

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          At this point, anything start rolling, it’s already too late to stop it. Nothing we can do but brace for the worst.