• Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Look, I like Linux too, and I think governments should definitely use it to move away from Microsoft.

    But as long as prebuilt PCs and laptops are sold with Windows, people will stay accustomed to it and be way more hesitant to switch. You can tell them, ‘It works just like Windows! It just looks a bit different!’ Yet their minds will still think, ‘New = scary.’ and won’t use it.

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      The issue for me as a potential advocate to my immediate circle of friends and family is that I don’t want to become the only source of tech support. Now realistically they’ll probably have fewer issues, but as soon as they want to fix something they’ll have to come to me. No they won’t Google things, and if they do they won’t understand it.

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      That was true in the past. But in the last 10 years people have stalled their PC upgrades. That’s the real reason why they don’t move to Win11, because they don’t want to buy a new PC. And that’s where Linux is going to get that market from MS.

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      There are more devices that ship with Linux or actively advertise support for it than ever tho. Of course far from the majority, but it’s a start that you can get basically anything with Linux if you want

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      there not many easy results for “arch based distro with KDE how to [do thing]” but there are a lot of Steamdeck tutorials and a SteamOS desktop version would make it better
      My yearly “I should try Linux again” cycle would probably stay permanently if Valve makes the OS

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        People who just blindly copy and paste random commands without any transferable thinking shouldn’t use computers in the first place.

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          everyone starts somewhere, it stars mindless then they eventually learn slowly but surely with a lot of mistakes. I did. I nuked my OS several times but now know a lot more about Linux because of it.
          If you apply that thinking then 9/10ths of the Linux community wouldn’t have ever started using it.
          Hell 99% of the non tech people I know IRL wouldn’t be able to send a text if that line of thinking is extended to them.

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      If i remember well, Chimera OS is what steam took inspiration of for steam OS.

      It is available for desktop. take a look on it :) .

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      KDEs Project Banana OS basically sounds like Steamdecks immutable Arch with Plasma

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      And that’s because the year of the Linux desktop was when Intel started full upstream contributions of drivers.

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    While people don’t want to move onto Windows 11, I recently saw a fricking Vista on a local office supply store.

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    Windows 11 is not that bad in the sense that a lot of its anti features are in Windows 10 now. With some work you can make it functional.

    With that being said, Linux. By the time I spend trying to make Windows work I might as well use something that respects my freedom.

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    I remember similar articles when Windows 7 reached end of life. People will complain but mostly adapt to Windows 11, and Linux will gain 0.2% market share.

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      Will they though ? Me and all my nerd friends straight up ignored windows 8, I’m sure we weren’t alone. I also saw the writing on the wall with windows 11 and went with Linux for my new gaming PC

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        I ignored Windows 8, and even 10 for a while, but that was because Windows 7 was still working and supported and still kinda is my favorite version of Windows.

        Then at some point I just switched to 10 and been using it ever since while installing the occasional distro to see if I can move off of Windows (Answer is still no) or as an emergency desktop bootable USB

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      When Windows 7 reached EOL in 2012, ChromeOS wasn’t even a year old, MacOS was too expensive, SteamOS wasn’t close on the horizon, tablets weren’t really usable, smartphones were severely underpowered, and most applications didn’t have web-based versions or replacements.

      This time around, none of those things are true, and Windows 11 lost market share last month (which is frankly unprecedented).

      Plus, even with that dearth of options, people griped and complained and refused for so long that Microsoft made a big marketing deal out of Windows 8.1. And even after that, they offered Windows 7 users free Windows 10 licenses to get them to upgrade.

      Linux probably won’t get the crown (though I’d say a bump as high as 1-2% isn’t out of the question). It’ll probably be ChromeOS, if anything, simply because of the commanding lead Google has held for the past decade or so in K12. But in any case, if Microsoft doesn’t shift their strategy, they’re unlikely to win this one; there are a lot of options.

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    Ah, yes, the mythical “Year of the Linux Desktop”—that elusive utopia Linux enthusiasts have been chasing since it’s creation. Newsflash: nobody cares. The year of the Linux desktop isn’t some grand global awakening; it’s just whenever you decide to stop whining about it and install the thing. For me, it was 2002, and guess what? My computer didn’t care either. It just worked. So stop waiting for some cosmic alignment of market share and app support. The year of the Linux desktop is when you make it. Now go forth and sudo (or doas) your destiny…

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      Can you safely remove sudo and completely switch to doas? I don’t see the point having 2 pieces of software that accomplish the same task.

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    Yeah, just like how Netflix’s rule changes was going to get everyone to turn to piracy. In reality, their subscription numbers skyrocketed, just like how new Windows PC sales will in 10 months.

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    Windows 10 LTSC IoT is supported til the end of 2031, maybe 2032 will be the year I finally switch.