Anything but trying to solve the underlying problems. Bonus: someone makes bank.
There’s literally no number of children that can die before reasonable action is taken.
It’s not the number that matters, it’s whose kids it is getting killed. If someone were to shoot up a school filled with politicians’ kids you’ll see some change rapidly.
When a dude’s gettin’ bullied and shoots up his school
And they blame it on Marilyn and the heroin
Where were the parents at?
And look where it’s at
Middle America, now it’s a tragedy
Now it’s so sad to see
An upper-class city havin’ this happenin’…
🤔 maybe
Ya, I’m pretty skeptical too. Maybe we should try and see for sure.
They sometimes are in normal schools, just under pseudonyms or not aiming for too much attention.
Doesn’t really change the fact that it’s more about whose child it is getting killed. They don’t care til it happens to them, the fucking GOP in a nutshell… Even then, significant change for the better is a crapshoot at best.
I suppose it is better than thoughts and prayers… but avoiding addressing the root cause is all politicians do.
Pray for your drone overlords to suicide bomb the mentally disturbed with too many guns before it’s too late!
I actually saw a news segment on the demo, and they said they would be thrilled if they were able to put these in every classroom and never have to use it. Im sure you would, buddy…
How long until someone hacks one and terrorizes a school that way?
Between this and AI generated apps, hacking is sooo back
So uh… what stops someone just disabling all the drones first in a plausably deniable way? Because you know kids are gonna use those things as target practice already.
what a great use of tax dollars. I’m sure the super rich asshole who owns this drone company has no personal relationship with with the legislators supporting this BS whatsoever.
Of course you’re right to be sure of that. Their wife, however, or their school buddy…
“If you’ve got something that’s preemptive, that’s immediate, that’s already there, you just can’t kill that many people in 10 to 15 seconds,” Marston said.
That’s their bar? Killing people for up to 15 seconds That’s not so bad?
How much you want to bet it’s using AI to determine who the shooter is. How much you want to bet is capable of false positives…
How much you want to bet is capable of false positives…
Confidently wrong false positives, but only more than 60% of the time.
“The high-tech drones, which are piloted by a team of former military men and nationally ranked professional drone racers…”
former military men
Cops.
nationally ranked professional drone racers
Jimmy is one of the cops’ kids and needed a job. He’s nationally ranked #2863883.
Gotta learn to read between the bullshit 😁
This was in response to someone talking about the drones being AI-piloted.
In 15 seconds? There’s simply no way.
Oh… They might log into their account for the remote piloting app, making the drone deploy within 15 seconds.
But then they have to navigate the school manually and find the shooter. But have you ever tried to navigate a high school you’ve never set foot in before?
The main building has three flores (2, 3 and 4), between 1990-2015 they added the A, B and C buildings. A and B are on a hill, so A only has floors 1 & 2, B has floors 3 & 4. You have to go through the science building to get to the C building. Last year they added the L building next to the track. Weirdly L is right next to A (but it’s shaped like an L) also it’s not physically connected to the rest of the buildings, you have to cross the courtyard. The science building doesn’t have a letter, but it’s next to the gym, you can’t miss it.
Alright pilots, the shooter is in the M building pop up extension. Go get em.
And a short 45 minutes it’s all over…
Or if it could handle a case where someone manages to disarm a shooter and tries to turn their weapons on a second shooter.
Though I don’t have any confidence someone in that case would survive cops either, assuming they don’t just sit outside.
Heh, on that note, how well will the automated drones be able to differentiate shooters from police? Especially if it ends up being an off duty officer like in the case where they just sat around outside.
Hell if it’s not automated like others claim, how quickly can those pilots discern? Cops have been known to pull up and shoot people with weapons, holding assailants at gunpoint.
I also wonder what they’re planning on arming the drones with. I suspect a single shot would disable them… or a tennis racket.
Yeah though at least they won’t be in fear of their own lives in the moment.
Though proper prevention is the best option. It’s probably only a matter of time before a shooter goes in with strategy and tactics to take advantage of the chaos in such a situation.
But on the upside the drone fleet will always be monitoring and collecting data as far away as their little robot eyes can see
Watch out, he’s not carrying a bible!
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If this gets any visibility, I do have some familiarity with the weapon on board.
They call it a “pepper spray bomb” but more accurately pepper spray is generally not what your want because it sticks to walls. The “pepper” in the spray is an oil and imagine cleaning an oil off walls and stuff. If it gets into ventilation you will be breathing it for a week afterward.
No, what’s on board these is probably Pava Powder. Think Baby Powder, but s p i c y. Pava has many of the same reactions as pepper sprays, coughing, watery eyes etc. But it works better IN enclosed areas like hallways and enclosed spaces. Prisons love this stuff for incidents bigger than like 3-5 people. It can be packed into a paintball, and works in normal paintball guns (it also comes in a 40mm grenade featuring timed release!) Pava is much easier to clean, you just have to have good ventilation, as it will dissipate normally. It also doesnt trigger allergies like pepper spray can, and all it takes is a nice shower to wash yourself of it. Its really a great choice for the intended settings in which it is often deployed.
In a mobile form like drones, I can’t see the drone loading more than 10 balls due to weight, and if you’ve ever been paintballing you’d know 10 ain’t shit. A normal paintball hopper holds about 80, and for pava powder you need to score a fair number of hits or just paint a hallway with them to reach effective saturation. If each drone can hold 20-30 maybe it becomes feasible. It only takes a couple to actually do the work, but in a prison theres nowhere to run. You sit and take that accumulation. But school hallways can be 14 feet wide or more and a shooter has access to the entire building, so any misses simply…miss and begin saturating an area the shooter is leaving.
The alarm on the drone giving the shooters position away is a great touch.
Thats the fact side of things, opinion wise? Man we will do anything but fix the problems. These drones and pava are a great uh…answer for the locale, but it doesnt answer why you have a problem you need a prison grade solution. Pava dissipates into the air and its not that hard to begin to choke on your own breath. A deployment of these will give away the positions of students in adjacent rooms to the shooter. And you can fight it (you can fight pepper pray too), it’s just a matter of willpower to fight through choking air. It also guarantees a shooter will attempt to relocate in the building to outrun the pava clouds. Unless theres a way to quickly reload these drones in their ceiling mounts, the low ammo count is going to get them to fire around the halls, and will be more of a deterrent and could be effective at getting a shooter to stay away from populated rooms than actually subduing them and getting them to surrender. The alarm however i like at face value acting as a clear warning for where the shooter is at that moment. A drone following the shooter giving their position away is a fantastic solution if we aren’t going to address actual shootings.
7/10 nonlethal solution, with some side effects. I like the idea but the obvious workarounds like a mask, and causing entire rooms to start coughing and alerting the shooter to empty/full rooms, on top of the shooter wildly taking shots at the ceiling to kill an alarming drone causes a host of additional issues. For the pricetag the school could hire like 3 off-duty cops who do their job when a shooter arrives. So thats also a factor. We could also like…address mental health issues or access to firearms but this is America where we pray for evil things to stop rather than actually adressing it so, that wasn’t an answer anyway
the only things this shit is going to do is waste money and prevent law enforcement from entering schools in a timely manner. They would just start sitting back and letting the drones “secure the area” before they move in. It would do a lot to help cops be bigger pussies than they already are though.
prevent law enforcement from entering schools in a timely manner
But law enforcement doesn’t enter schools with active shooters. It turns out, law enforcement doesn’t have any obligation to protect the public at all (legally).
It does open the door for excuse making, and i wouldn’t be surprised to find out the maker of the drones has a lobbyist “suggesting” their brand to this school and then pocketing the half million.
https://www.transparencyusa.org/tx/lobbying/client/mithril-defense-inc
mithril defense is the company that makes the drones
Why do people having nothing at all to do with Tolkien’s values pick up his names?
It is similar to why cowards like to talk about honor?
Saint Luigi don’t fail me now
I just hope your constitution protects drone rights.
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a drone swarm is a good guy with a drone swarm.
Murrka yippekayeee mothafucka or something like that (never been on that continent).
And drones should have the right to bear arms.
I dunno, the right to bear one arm releasing a grenade is honestly enough
How long until the Manhacks are flying around?
I can hear this image.
Fantastic sound design!
Yes more weapons instead of tougher laws on existing weapons.
Ah, yes, absolutely nothing could go wrong here.
What a shithole country.
I thought Texas didn’t care about school children. CoughUvaldeCough
Well, Texas cops aren’t gonna do it…
Fair enough. Maybe we could close the police department and just have drones.
All operated by ICE. Get rid of all local police. (They’ll just be re-hired by ICE, except they will report to the king rather than locally elected officials.)
I mean, considering the cops are just going to play on their phones and actively stop people from trying to rescue children (Uvalde was more fucked up than most people remember), it makes sense to consider alternatives.
In all seriousness, this is actually a ridiculously hard problem and a horrible “solution”. Drone weapons work best against unaware/unattentive enemies in a target rich environment. While a bunch of russians are goofing off and not even bothering to close the hatch on their tanks you fly forward with a couple pounds of explosives duct taped to the drone and detonate when you get in range.
Against a shooter who is already having an endorphin high from murdering a bunch of kids and is on high alert for if/when the cops will stop their fun? They’ll hear the motors echoing through the hallways even louder than the kindergarteners bleeding out and crying for their parents who have been handcuffed for daring to try to help. They’ll shoot more kids in the time it takes the drone to get to them and children gasping for breath will likely die as their airways close up from the pepper spray bombs. Or the drone will hit a kid anyway since aiming those at high speed needs VERY good reflexes and skills.
Again, we all know the actual way to reduce the number of children murdered in school shootings. But clearly The Second Amendment is more important than the death of a few thousand kids.
Uvalde was not what most think. It was an absolute clusterfuck of communication, not so much cowardice. Several people in charge at once, conflicting orders, no one in charge, wait, you’re not in charge?!
If someone, anyone, would have said, “Fuck this, fuck you, fuck you, fuck all y’all, I’m in command! ON ME!”, and charged, it would have been over in 1 minute flat. Many of those cops were champing at the bit to get in there, but comms and leadership was a fucking mess.
If your heart can take it, this PBS documentary is excellent.
I can never watch it again, bit I wish anyone with an opinion on the event would give it a spin.
