Exciting, but not holding my breath now that paramount is merging with sky :/

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    How about, and hear me out on this…give us a good, well written series and ease off in the callbacks and blatant shameless fan service. If you feel so compelled to do that era, give us a compelling show about the Earth Romulan War, with new characters on a new ship and a new crew with the occasional rare cameo.

    This doesn’t mean make Reed the captain with Sato as his first officer and Mayweather as the second officer with Phlox and T’Pol showing up every other episode, constantly contacting Archer, and directly referencing Enterprise episodes every 4-7 minutes while featuring a young Sarek who becomes a regular cast member in season 2 and oh look ancestors of Kirk and Riker…

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      Everyone is always focused on a new ship and crew. DS9 proved you don’t need that to make a great Trek.

      A well written show about how the Admiralty handles this early situations like the Earth Romulan War on a larger scale, that then sometimes dives down into those early Startleet officers trying to handle those directly would be a unique perspective really only DS9 and a handful of scenes in SNW sort of scratched the surface with.

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        We are yet to get an admirality based show also. War time admirals show please. Fighting on two fronts, problems with politicians. Home front and civil liberties issues. Weapons development and labs. Intelligence failures, double agents, and insurgencies. All set in the trek Universe.

        That sounds fantastic. No way it’ll happen!

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      How about you do a new show in the TNG / DS9 timeline, PLEASE.

      New crew, new ship, none of the lens flares, no dumb pew pew pew, have intelligently written episodes, focus on positivism which we all need… Make real star trek again!

      Take a lootk at “The Orville”, especially season 2. THAT is what I want, that is great star trek. Please please please!

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    I’m one of the rare defenders of Enterprise mostly because I just really like Bakula in the role of a gruffer, more inherently American early Captain, so while I hate all these prequels and midquels and stuff they keep pumping out, I would probably watch if Bakula reprised the role.

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      The beginning of the Federation is a unique space to look closer at. Sort of similar to how Starfleet Academy clearly won’t be following a ship’s adventures. Take a more DS9 approach to it, focusing on the innet working of the Admiralty and Day to day operations at the command level, and it could work despite being a prequel timeframe.

      One of the reasons Enterprise worked as well as it did was because it wasn’t as beholden to the existing canon. It was far enough removed in the timeline that it didn’t need to address most existing canon events. The ship wasn’t fast enough to get to far flung regions, and it allowed us to see the start of humanity’s exploration without the corrupted Admiralty of Starfleet in the TNG/DS9/VOY era.

      SNW is great, but it is limited by the tight confines of its place in the chronology. Similar to Disco before its leap forward, except Disco had the added complexity of a magical propulsion system no one outside the crew could really know about.

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        I really agree early federation is very untapped, and despite it’s flaws I liked enterprise and consider it a mostly successful experiment in the franchise. Archer was a great character in terms of bringing up the early fundamentals of the federation but having to operate without having it’s often overwhelming force behind him.

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      I also like Archer in Enterprise, despite most of the fandom really not liking him.

      I feel it’s completely unrealistic to expect him to be as much of a polished and perfect Starfleet officer as, say, Picard or Pike are.

      He’s doing all of this stuff for the first time, with completely inadequate training, very little in the way of standard procedures imposed by the Earth government, etc. he also doesn’t have captain’s logs from others to pore through and learn from.

      He’s an ex test pilot who’s been given command basics that are completely inadequate for interplanetary exploration and diplomacy, and he’s expected to learn on the fly.

      People complain that he’s out of his depth half the time, but that’s the entire theme of the show.

      It’s actually somewhat fun - as a one off for a Trek series - to see humans not be hypercompetent and perfect, while at the same time trying to be. You can see that they’re not at the level of evolved sensibilities that we see in TNG, but they want to be. That’s their goal. They’re trying to be. And not half-arsed trying either, they’re genuinely putting as much effort as they can to better themselves as a species. They’re risking their lives to be a positive force in the galaxy, only to end up making a mess of it and sometimes making stuff worse, but it works as a series because you can see it comes not from malice, but from a desire to do good. They’re trying to impose good morals on a galaxy full of realpolitik and shades of grey. It’s like watching Superman, except unlike Superman they don’t have might to back themselves up, quite the opposite, they’re small fish trying to impose goodwill onto the great whites. I find that very endearing.

      I miss Enterprise. It’s a great shame we never got to see the Earth-Romulan war and more of the political back and forth between the Federation founder worlds.

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        I think this isn’t really a minority opinion anymore. Not even just in comparison to the current crop of ST. It was a jarring tonal shift at the time. But I think Enterprise aged very well. I’ve rewatched the Xindi arc numerous times .

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    Instead of an 80s genre theme song like they did with Enterprise … they’ll probably upgrade to a 90s ska band style in this one.

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    Not content to do just another prequel, they think we need President Duchess? Please for Koala’s sake give us the post-Dominion War series we deserve.

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      Have you taken a look at Star Trek: Resurgence at all? It’s a recent Telltale-style Star Trek adventure game taking place in the post-Dominion War Star Trek universe. It follows a new cast of characters on a random science vessel getting into Star Trek shenanigans. There’s some small lore callbacks and cameos, but it’s mostly just trying to tell its own 12 hour story.