If your favorite character isn’t Morn then you aren’t a real fan. That Morn, he’ll talk your ear off!
She is one of my favorite characters, too. She’s one of the best most vile repulsive idiotic and self-righteous characters in TV history.
For other “fun” sci-fi Louise Fletcher roles, check out Invaders From Mars, Strange Invaders, and Brainstorm.
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MY CHILD…
We need some type of punctuation that conveys contempt.
“My child.”
-As said by Winn Adami
“My child.” 😔
Nurse Rat Shit! She really is phenomenal at portraying unbearable characters.
She is one of the best characters though. That doesn’t mean she’s likable but she creates conflict which is interesting/entertaining.
100% It reminds me of the piece of shit kid from The Strain. Even having me hate them is an achievement. Having a person actually feel or care strongly about a character is not easy to do.
Now I’m trying to come up with a show involving only likeable characters.
Just brave heroes, funny sidecharacters and hot villains.
The Fifth Element
You are absolutely correct! If you want engagement post a Kai Winn meme 😂
That’s one sore spot for every one, even people who are long time lurkers on any platform will have an opinion on that character. I myself would normally just have a sensible chuckle, or a brief exhalation of amusement…but when anyone brings up Kai Winn, I too must voice my opinion
She’s the Umbridge of DS9
She was a big part of the show. Just little more than half evil.
Why do you have such a strong reaction, my child?
I can still hear the condescension in that statement. I don’t think I’ve had such a strong reaction to any character on any TV show or movie in (checks watch) jfc 30+ years
Greetings, fellow geezer! They just don’t make them like this any more.
So true, I think it was a good idea to not explore her past, to find out how her character came to be. I think we may have ended up sympathizing with the character if we knew what drove her to behave the way she did (even as we were equally appalled by her behaviour)
I do kinda feel like the series ending didn't make much sense for her character.
Highly self-righteous religious leader having a crisis of faith because her gods chose a literal alien over her, sure I buy that. Becoming a satanist about it? I don’t know… I guess it makes sense, she gets to have the same set of beliefs and worldview she had before but now inverted and doubling down on the put-upon and persecuted by all angle.
But to also throw in allying with the face of the occupation? The brutal event that almost certainly was foundational to her becoming the kind of person she was? I don’t buy it. I don’t think she should have been able to stomach being a satanist and doing it alongside Dukat of all people.
The broken circle arc at the beginning of the show handled it better; yes the reactionary elements of Bajor’s culture and religion ultimately aligned and had a lot in common with the Cardasian empire, but it was hardly intentional. Bajoran reactionaries couldn’t stand that contradiction when it came to light. I think it makes Winn’s character less interesting for being able to.
Honestly, the point of her character is that she’s a narcissistic sociopath. She’s not a good person. She’s a cautionary tale that is specifically showing how toxic that becomes when combined with dogmatic theocracy, even in the context of a nominally progressive religion.
For good reason, it’d be too much like RL right now
from a “oh my god she does so good in that role”, yeah i see it. she’s so hateable. i can see actors enjoying watching louise fletcher, i mean i do and i have a little community theater experience even though i’m not that great.
my favorite character is odo though. love rene.
This is a time when the difference between “good” and “well” are important. She did well.
Garak, Quark, and Odo were my top 3 (not in that order). I always enjoyed a good Garak episode, but the episode where Quark thinks he’s finally out-witted Odo, when Odo had booked the holo-suite for his anniversary with Nerys was one of my favourites
Louise Fletcher played her so well! She made Winn easy to hate. Awesome actress!
Do we have better words to distinguish between a fictional character and the in-universe character? As in, I really hate the in-universe character Kai Winn, which is why I really love the fictional character of Kai Winn.
Canon/fanon?
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: we need an episode of Celebrity Deathmatch between Kai Winn and Delores Umbridge
You loved to hate her.
Good Boy
