Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn’t freedom if Apples winning any awards.
It’s definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s.
SOLARIS 8 IS BEST UNIX
Unironically agree. I want to write my code, not your configs. The fact that saying it causes purists of every ilk to absolutely lose their fucking minds is a fringe benefit.
Security by obscurity is not real.
Are any of us ever real?
How can our eyes be real if mirrors aren’t real?
Have you ever looked, like really looked at your hands?
Lol, Linux literally owns the server space, windows owns the desktop space, what exactly does MacOS Own exactly? If best means most pretentious then sure.
what exactly does MacOS Own exactly
Definitely not the server space. OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s. But you know, OSX is definitely “unix”.
surprisingly many computational scientists use MacOS
Yeah, I have some anecdotal evidence to that as well.
Everyone likes to shit on AAPL for being a walled garden, but it’s really hard for some to admit that they are pretty good at what they’re doing.
I mean, they kind of have to be pretty good to entice you into the walled garden to begin with. Get people in the door with a smooth, super-polished experience, and then you’ve already got plenty of them pretty well won over. You’ll lose some users with previous experience with another OS to “It doesn’t work the way it did on $ancient_version of $OS, I hate it,” that go back, some just get tired of the same thing and want to try something new, and others that hit the walls of the garden and decide they want out. If it was straight garbage and restrictive, on top of being expensive, nobody would hang around until they got comfortable enough that overcoming the friction of changing was a real obstacle to switching.
There’s just a disproportionate representation of folks like myself in tech communities versus the general population who are opposed to any walled garden, no matter how polished, when there exist a free alternative.
I’m old enough to remember when people thought OSX Server was a competitive option because it was technically “unix”. Needless to say, once people figured out Apple was using Linux for their own servers, despite numerous attempts to switch over to OSX Server. OSX Server went tits up. Apparently OSX Server hung around as an addon to OSX for casual use.
what exactly does MacOS Own exactly?
It certainly isn’t the enterprise space, ALL their business features and integrations are half-assed at best and downright painful to use at worst (ESPECIALLY iOS device management, fuck what a shit show that is)
I came up with the phrase “Windows is an enterprise OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with (half-assed) enterprise features” to describe it perfectly.
And then those “enterprise features” get borked on the next major macOS release.
Oh you wanted to ensure your remote assist tool could be granted the proper permissions to work? Well screw you! We took away the ability to grant Screen Recording permissions through a MDM profile. Suck it!
In case you didn’t know the Screen Recording permission is needed to be able to view the display/screen in applications like Zoom when screen sharing or for remote assist through Screen connect.
Apple’s “reason” was essentially “… Think of the users! It’s for their security”.
MacOS owns the developer/sysadmin laptop market.
The “luxury” space. It’s overpriced hardware with an honestly relatively pretty aesthetic and the OS has so many guardrails they’re hard to really mess up, and when someone does mess it up, apple stores are ubiquitous enough that its a pretty quick trip to get it fixed. Perfect for people with a bit more money than sense who don’t want to or have the time/ability to figure out how to properly use a more flexible OS that requires a bit more knowhow to use and not break.
It’s overpriced hardware
Have you seen the M4 benchmarks?
If you’re memory bound then sure, you can get way more bang for your buck with Intel/AMD. But for pretty amazing CPU performance I think the “Apple is overpriced” trope isn’t really true any more.
CPU isn’t the only specs I’m looking for, supporting a beefy graphic card for 3d rendering is also a must, at least for me to quickly get renders done, and dollar for dollar, getting a customized computer running windows will take me much farther and faster than any Mac will.
Sure the CPU might be amazing but CPU isn’t the only important part of a computer.
Linux is not UNIX
The *nix desktop space.
Year of desktop Linux is when? 😆
what exactly does MacOS Own exactly?
Space in your amygdala, apparently.
Laptops that won’t die in 2 hours? Even with Asahi the difference is 30%
“Whale space”, as their are going for those that like to spent more?
Spit on that thang
Joke’s on you: GNU/Linux isn’t Unix to begin with (that’s literally what GNU means: “GNU’s Not Unix”)!
Therefore, MacOS is “the best Unix” only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes (“Unices?” “Unixen?”) – hardly an impressive feat.
BSDs aren’t even Unix AFAIK because they didn’t bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.
Although for both Linux and (especially) BSD, isn’t there a “Unix of Theseus” issue here, if you understand my meaning?
Maybe for BSD? They have a lot of the original code though, and BSD moves a lot slower than Linux. Modern BSDs have a lot more in common with original UNIX than macOS does, but macOS paid for the certification and the BSDs didn’t.
Linux never was UNIX though. It does loosely follow the UNIX philosophy though.
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Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.
Someone make a virus for his mac
Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.
People like a good flame war 🤷
Just because one understands trolling doesn’t mean it can’t be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.
Especially when it’s cold outside.
Where’s the fire ?
I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not… well… if you don’t see it maybe I’m just net-warped.
i mean, dude 3 of frame 3 has the right expression for someone in that exact situation
Thought he was giving the zucc as well
But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)
I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.
I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.
Former macaddict here
I disagree but this is a funny meme
I still miss that magazine. It was freakin’ awesome.
*flames, screaming, sound of glass breaking*
God I love the smell of Usenet in the morning
Is there some twisted definition by which you can argue Windows is UNIX? Just to intensify the violence.
GNU/Unix/NT, as I’ve taken to calling it
Back in the 90s, Windows NT had a POSIX compatibility layer that you could enable (it wasn’t enabled by default).
There’s also the WSL, which is pretty unix-y.
Probably. macOS is only Unix by certification because Apple pays a lot of money for that privilege.
