• PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    I did finally win a match in CS2 after a long loss streak… it was definitely because everyone else was always cheating… not because I’m shit…

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    8 hours ago

    And they did it without installing root kits on our computers.

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    9 hours ago

    Ha! Get fucked, losers. Cheaters ruin the fun for everyone, so I hope every last one gets permabanned.

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      8 hours ago

      You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn’t have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process

      As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn’t a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive

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        If, to you, not being able to play one game in the sea of many many many games is akin to death, maybe you need to see someone about addiction.

        If you cheat in a game, you’ve burned your bridge. It’s like taking a piss in the cereal isle of Kmart, you probably won’t be welcome in that Kmart any more. Or hey, maybe you’ll end up like an acquaintance I knew who was banned from a Kmart, maybe you’ll be hired on as staff without them checking the binder of banned people. I think I’ve lost the plot of this analogy.

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        In the worst case scenario offender can just create another Steam account, so permaban is fine.

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          Consequence of sentencing the wrong person to death: You killed an innocent life in an irreversible action.

          Consequence of permabanning a player from an online game: The player can no longer play the game. The action is also reversible since “permaban” just means to say “we’re never unbanning you unless something extraordinary were to happen”.

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        Yeah, I have a very thoroughly ingrained suspicion of people treating anticheat with too much confidence stemming back to when I got banned many years ago from an online game for supposedly running a script.

        I had so much lag on my dialup connection, that a backlog of all my commands hit their server at the same time, so from their perspective it looked like I’d entered over a dozen commands in under a second. Insta ban, no appeal, essentially lost access to a significant percentage of my online friends that it hadn’t occurred to me to get email addresses for.

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        shadowbanning to cheater-only servers sounds like nice middle ground to me

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          Sometimes it’s a nice perk if you want to play modded coop with your friends ie those from mods.

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        8 hours ago

        I said cheaters, not suspected cheaters. I know that’s unrealistic, because no anticheat software is perfect, but I still want it.

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    It’s possible that Adwaita for Steam causing VAC issues now. I suddenly started getting VAC warnings on CS2 and it didn’t go until disabling Adwaita for Steam.

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    Glad about the VAC update, but did you have to post a screenshot from reddit and the link to the reddit post?

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    The problem is the arms race escalates forever - cheat developers will just regroup, analyse what the new VAC is doing, and start finding new exploits.

    Not saying Valve should just give up; quite the opposite. The war never ends.

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      That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

      If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

      The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

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        Why do you hate property rights?

        I’m not defending cheating in online games or interfering with Valve’s service, but if you think the solution to stopping them is attacking “software hacking” in general as a concept, that juice ain’t worth the squeeze. “Software hacking,” fundamentally, is nothing more than modifying the operation of your computer, your property that you own. It’s no different than buying a physical paper book and then writing notes in the margin.

        If you’re proposing disallowing people from doing that, you’re attacking the concept of property rights itself.

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          That would be absurd for me to suggest. I was not claiming that all “hacking” no matter how you define the word, as bad.

          I was just stating the source of the problem here. Everyone is really sensitive about the fact.