I will one-up Star Trek and say I want to live within The Culture. Nothing yet beats The Culture. The Federation looks conservative, backward, and low-tech in comparison.
Monkey’s paw finger curls
You’re in the Star Trek universe! Right after the Burn.
Even before knowing about the
Burnnuclear war in the lore, I always think we humans will annihilate ourselves first before coming into a utopia. It is a pattern in human history that things will always get worse before it becomes better. Humans are emotional and angry creatures. We always need catharsis.Edit: everybody can tell I don’t really watch Star Trek, as I mistook the Burn as Earth’s nuclear war lol.
I don’t think we’re capable of a utopia on a large scale. Not unless our fundamental nature is altered, anyway.
Which is a good thing, perfection is subjective and humans could never buld a Utopia for the same reason ants could build one.
It’s not necessary to lose individuality like the Borg to have a utopia. The selfish nature that we needed to survive needs to be toned down.
You want to play a game with me not realizing that I am going to construct the board from your bones.
People always forget that Star Trek is post-apocalytic science fiction.
In our defense, it is VERY post-apocalyptic, like 400 years or so depending on where you tag in.
It’s not like the bombs dropped yesterday and all of a sudden they have holodecks and microwaves that make food out of raw materials and transporters and warp drives.
If you consider our technology in 1625 versus today, Having that kind of tech in 2425 seems perfectly reasonable.
In our defense, it is VERY post-apocalyptic, like 400 years or so depending on where you tag in.
According to Star Trek canon, all the apocalyptic stuff lasts for about a century, tops. The Eugenics Wars started in 1992 (pre-retcon to make them happen further in the future), the nuclear exchange happened no later than 2053, the Vulcans showed up in 2063, and Earth society appeared to be completely recovered by 2121 (the time of Enterprise).
Then let’s hope they get dropped off at the right time.
Fun fact: according to Star Trek canon, we’re about to be living through the worst of the apocalyptic period starting about right now. The Bell Riots (unrest in California regarding “sanctuary” districts – sound familiar?) would’ve happened last year, and the Second World War/WWIII is due to start next year.
That’s because it’s in the subgenre of “post-post-apocalyptic.” Think Nausicaä, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Planet of the Apes. The apocalypse happened so long ago that it’s more of a history lesson than an ongoing concern
If you want to live in a fictional universe, you should mention when.
I want to live in the world of Land of the Lustrous, but waaay in the past before human civilization collapsed
That’s a shower thought if any.
I mean technically we live in a post apocalyptic era too.
It’s that it was before humans were around.
So is adventure time, what’s your point
Jokes on you, it’s Star Trek in the year 2025. It’s about to get a lot worse before it gets better.
We missed the eugenics wars of the 1990s and the nuclear wars of the 2020s so far, and the 2024 Bell Riots in San Francisco. I do agree it will get worse, but not to the degree seen in The Star Trek Universe.
That would cause an actual class war where the slave class (not the owner class) revolts against the owner class
For short-term wins I’d go with Neal Asher’s “Polity” civilization as at some point in the 20th Century, the AI just decides to take over and become benevolent rulers.
No societal collapse required.
But also a higher risk of enslavement by giant sentient crabs. Your call.
Haven’t read any of those in an age. I liked it! Sentient wasps was fun, but a billion-year-old malevolent pseudo-virus that rapidly turned you into a military agent of an ancient and hugely destructive race was… less so.
Think of the power consumption needed to power holodecks 24/7 so nerds can fuck wood elves or whatever their kink is.
Lucky we have these McGuffin Crystals lying around for nearly limitless clean energy
It does come with the caveat that you’re not in TOS whilst wearing a red shirt, or DS9 and called O’Brian
Send me to the elder scrolls just after the Warp in the West stops making time fucky, by the time anything interesting happens I should be set up to comfortably avoid it. I’ll just stay the fuck away from Morrowind and find a nice defensive city during the Oblivion Crisis, guess id bunker down in Winterhold since it would still be packed with mages.
Somehow, Palpatine escaped the holodeck…
You mean Moriarty
Oh no, did the holodeck break and turn all the holograms real and evil? That’s the second time this stardate
Ok, new TNG plot idea - to provoke war with the Klingon Empire, Romulan hackers infiltrate the Federation’s central update servers, programming Klingon commandos to pour out of holodecks all over the fleet, take over vessels, and attack Earth. The Enterprise is spared because Wesley disabled auto-update to troubleshoot the Moriarty problem and forgot to turn it back on.
Better than section 31.
Obligatory “shut up Westley”
I’d watch it
The Culture. Which is all of the above plus friendly superintelligent AI to run it for us.
Ding ding ding. The Culture is Star Trek ++.
Gene manipulation that’s so effective you can just will yourself to change sexes, get stoned, be performance-enhanced, whatever
You never have to work if you don’t want to.
It’s so utopian most of the stories have to take place outside it, because paradise gets boring.
And that’s why it’s the best place to live.
Oh absolutely, The Culture would be my answer too.
Earth’s presence in the Federation says we survived. Environmental collapse, wars, etc. didn’t condemn us to extinction. Yes, it got ugly but we made it and we reached the stars. Star Trek gives us hope.
Granted. You’re now in the bell riots
Nah, bullshit. I’m living next door to Bluey and having a couple of tinnies with Bandit.
You and me both, brother. My son loves Bluey meanwhile I’m just jealous at their level of patience for all of the girls’ shenanigans.
They said fictional universe.
Shit, I’ll take Mordor at this point
At least Sauron owns being evil.
Gay vegan space communism was Roddenberry’s dream all along!
Toss in some trans porn stars and I’m in!
This reminds me of “You find yourself in your favorite fictional universe, what would you do first?”
On one end of the spectrum is Star Trek.
On the other end, Warhammer 40K.
